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It depends on what particular thing caused each mail to be held today. For example, today mail may be caught by:
- SpamAssassin score exceeding limit
- Personal blacklist set in SpamCop email options
- SpamCop blacklist
- Other blacklists selected in the SpamCop email options (e.g. Spamhaus SBL/XBL/PBL, Composite Blocking List)
- Country source of email, selected in the SpamCop email options (South Korea, China, Nigeria, Argentina, and/or Brazil)
- Greylisting
The personal blacklist is definitely no more.
Notice that the Cisco Reputation Score is not in the current list.
But one or more of the existing RBLs may be an input into the reputation score.
SpamAssassin wouldn't be used with its current settings; it gets too many false positives.
So... Cisco is not going to hold anything. Some of your current held messages will probably be blocked, but not all. Since they don't have a held mail, they can only block was it 100% certain to be spam.
Pay to wait and see Cisco scoring is used worldwide. You don't see spam so no need to report it
Cisco servers are second to none so reliability is no longer a concern
My experience is sending Email direct to a email address that uses their system (not forwarded from other servers that may not). In my case I just use SpamCop as my own address.
For Windows and one account FREEWARE Mail washer can be set up to catch countrywide email or any blacklist you want
bl.spamcop.net
sbl.spamhaus.org
pbl.spamhaus.org
xbl.spamhaus.org
Country Brazil is
br.countries.nerd.dk
If you want Russia just change BR to RU and add to filter Ukraine is UA and so on.
But you shouldn't need it
spam caught by SC can also be easily reported using MailWasher without it going to your email client.
Used to be reporting spam if by some miracle gets through their servers Cisco gave a reporting address?
- SpamAssassin score exceeding limit
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I think I've sufficiently answered my own questions on this, and since it involves more than just forwarding questions, I posted it under it under the "Spamcop Alternatives?" thread.
I too just forward to a gmail account which works well
Concerns with Gmail are privacy concerns
ALL email coming and going is electronically read and they are expert at it
I have never given them my real name or address
Scary notes are they can now show me on Google my home,
car parked in driveway
They have got my birthday
All scrapped from email received sent to them
Gmail have on a few times reverted to use the False name I gave them in Google Groups?
Never asked just did it I have gone back to Petzl by working out how and no thanks to google
Also adverts are now targeting my age group, eg (geriatric) lonely heart types using this info not emailed but seen in Youtube also Australian goods and services. I just don't trust them and seeing a a later point this (my) info being sold to dubious parties.
Been given a hint and a wink to try http://pobox.com/
But going to stick with Gmail domain account I got from Email Client I once used
Seem a LOT of clever but ignorant "Charlies" run Google
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Point 8. in the first post in http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=14280
Thanks that is really good
From experience never had false positives and even when dealing in countries known to be spam sources
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The only benefit is that email forwarded will be spam checked using the Cisco Reputation system, whatever that is.
Can you "cite" that please I seem to of missed it
To me a good thing if true
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...Please see SCWiki entry "SenderBase Reputation Score."
In my experience that is the best spam/virus detection in the world
ICI/ORICA Australia now use it
IF that's the case sign up now for email forwarding if you don't want to ever see spam
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I'm surprised as I thought it was the Inbox that was vanishing. How is one to control when legitimate emails are caught as spam? I assume the Held Mail tab at the reporting service will still have some functions?
( http://mailsc.spamcop.net/reportheld?action=heldlog )
No one yet knows what this move will do
I always try to make my spam thoroughly reported
As such used my trash folder to forward to both CERT of the country that sent it as well as the abuse address given.
Not being able to send direct from a SpamCop email source that it was sent to creates "noise" to the dopey that look into it.
Most of those working to stop spamming are not the brightest crayons in the pack and find it easier to bitbin reports than do anything!
So for me if SpamCop email reporting becomes useless will dump the SpamCop address (spammers have won with the help of Cesmail"
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This news sucks. I doubt I'll report spam anymore. It is so nice to have the email account and the reporting all together. Also I have no idea where I'll want my email delivered to (definitely not gmail or hotmail/outlook). I am not a fan of free email providers (you get what you pay for IMO). I may use my webhosting provider, but I really liked having it separate (in case of a security breach).
I just renewed two accounts this week. It would suck to be out all that money.
Not keen about this myself.
Just means you need a email account to send email
Received email will still go through your SpamCop filters
This can also be done by using a freeware program called MailWasher this allows you to use the same blocklists SpamCop Email does, except they WORK, unlike SpamCop Email
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Maybe a moderator could combine the two threads. Or we could just stick to this one.
My account expires 8/18 so I'm certainly wondering how to proceed.
It sounds as if the webpage will still exist but the "inbox" tab goes away. Will all the other "spamcop options" still be there like filter lists, white lists, black lists? Lots of unanswered questions.
SpamCop will forward filtered email to an email account of your choice
I suggest one open a Gmail Account and use a super secret email Addy like "dodadumdumdewidiwidi84"
Your held folder will still work as will "Very Easy Reporting" (VER) using SpamCop
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thanks for the quick response. maybe I posted in the wrong place. I care not about submitting spam. I just want to download email from spamcop to Outlook. I'm happy to to go webmail to flag spam if it gets through.
any other ideas?
Sending Mail / SMTP Server
smtp.cesmail.net Port 587
Receiving Mail (regular connection)
pop.spamcop.net
User/Logon Full SpamCop Email address
Password (Maximum 30 Characters)
You should stop using your other email address (let it run dry over time) and use your SpamCop one only anddirectly.This removes the incompetence problems your provider sticks you with
Pay to just mark message read leave on server
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can someone point me to Outlook 2007 setup instructions?
I assume they exist but search has not produced them.
Thanks.
JEJ
Don't use outlook
Help page
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html
Tool
SpamCopWiki
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Was the 2/12/2013 installation of IPv6 successful or are we back on the old version?
I do not know where to find version number.
I found the version number.
It is the IPv6 version SpamCop v 4.7.0.111 © 1992-2013 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved
The new version will show as SpamCop.net v4.7.0.111
So the upgrade was successful
This number is shown when you report spam at top of page
http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5461978436za...a20af63d5b3fccz
So thanks to SC staff and the development engineers in Elbonia
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Any hope of this ever being resolved?
Nope!
Once an IP is blocked by Hotmail group it's unlikely to be unblocked EVER
The only way is for SpamCop to use a different IP
29th December I tried Hotmails auto removal
We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. No action taken 216.154.195.49 The system found that the reported IP(s) are not eligible for automatic mitigation.
Seems there is very little spam from that IP
Was 99 and dropped a bit so seems spamtraps are still being hit?
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...As explained by DT's detailed explanation in SpamCop Forum topic "hotmail blocking spamcop.net?", referenced by DT in his post immediately prior to yours 82946[/snapback].
The IP is clean it did not have DNS set correctly when this first started being blocked and many blocklists are unforgiving if Reverse DNS is not set right (it is now)
Webmail is now using a different IP 216.154.195.54 which Hotmail accepts
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Update: I just now tried sending a test to my own Hotmail address using SC webmail, and this happened:
5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-"SC-001 (COL0-MC4-F22) Unfortunately, messages from 216.154.195.49 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list.
DT
Microsoft also bounce email from SpamCop sent via SMTP
Thought I would try and ask their abuse desk to release IP 216.154.195.49 It is clean
And
The following message to <abuse[at]hotmail.com> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-"SC-001 (BAY0-MC3-F40) Unfortunately, messages from 216.154.195.49 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list.
Abuse addresses are not meant to be blocked?
Seems strange that they don't do nothing with other spammers ever?
My Hotmail junk folder was getting full of porn pharm phishing
Any blocking list needs a "white hlist" for any block list to be overridden or it just gives false positives
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Thunderbird Portable seems to be Windows-only. I use GNU/Linux, so that wouldn't help me. But I'm sure there are other options for Linux.
Even though I use IMAP, I didn't lose any mail. Luckily, after the last outage, I saw the posts here about lost mail, so I avoided using my local client (Thunderbird). If I hadn't seen the posts, I suppose Thunderbird would have synched with the server. But still, I do daily backups that include the Thunderbird folder, so at worst I wouldn't have lost more than 24 hours of mail.
Yes I use Win7 32 bit not sure what portable apps are available for Linux but just using thunderbirds inbuilt back-up should help a bit? I just zip the whole lot up when it gets over 2 gig (date it "backwards 20111106 year/month/day) After 4 gigs worth I burn them to data DVD disk.
Another with Thunderbird is the PGP use is easy but you have to look for "Enigmail"
Go to "Tools" then select "Add-ons" then "Extensions"
I mention this because many email providers (companies ISP's, Goverment etc) read your mail (electronically but maybe also manually if flagged?)
I have noticed Gmail target my age (YouTube etc) and I have never given it to them? even my name is false, this seems to be from "dating companies" with Ladies my age also also other cruise-lines and so on? Don't mind the cruise lines but giving out my age? Makes me wonder what else is looked for
I get my "junk" email sent there (Gmail) from Supermarket/Cruise ships/etc which have these details and often send me "happy birthday".Bit hard to convince people but your identity is at risk and maybe PGP keys aren't such a bad idea (Very easy to use with Thuderbird and SpamCop Webmail)
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I didn't trust. I failed to understand how local folders behave in IMAP. My bad.
Some knew and didn't get burned.
Others like me who found Petzl's post now know this can happen.
Likely some don't yet know why it happened to them.
So this is "BACK UP YOUR EMAIL"
Explanations of how you do it will help.
Explanations what not to do and what to avoid will help too.
Your email is coming back if not now shortly
IMAP is good and no reason to not keep using it
Just as an extra use a USB email program as well to POP say once an hour a day whatever
Thing is this not likely to happen for another 20 years
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I suggest this method
Maybe someone has a better idea?
[edit] prompted by appeal in another topic
Please create and pin a topic for how to back up everything to outside or home copies, so this never happens again. Some folks were clever enough to have them. I thought I did, but like others it appears I misunderstood how IMAP works; my home mailbox for copies disappeared along with the others.
now pinned
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My prayers go out to her
A good friend with heart in right place
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There seems to be a diversity of practice and that is a potential snag.
So yeah, both sender and receiver apparently need to be on something like the same 'wavelength' and I can see some conservatism on either side affecting delivery times and I can see that being variable.
The original was a minimum of 30 minutes between retries any quicker a permanent rejection
Greylisting works and the only static will be from those that don't want it or any spam prevention (except their own) to work NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email) is full of them.
I think 15 minutes would now be a safe resend time, as spam runs go for hours and are unlikely to resend
(a big problem if a server is set to permanently reject email on attempts greater than 30 minutes)
The latest and changing is
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I would appreciate it if someone would look into why it doesn't show up in my inbox immediately.
Never had it turn up immediately, but it has within 15 minutes sometimes longer
I try to whitelist any domain I'm expecting mail from (best practice)
Also I'm not clear myself as to what takes place if one selects "allow" on "pending entries"
It may just allow/OK very next email to pass straight through. Greylisting just sends a temporary reject message to resend which a compliant mail server ("RFC 821") must do within a set time (30 t0 60 minutes?).
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Anyone here know how to fix this problem on Vista machines? I'd really rather avoid reloading the whole computer. I just did that for a machine at work yesterday and it took all day to load Windows and get all the updates!
During and just before "boot up" push "F5" (exact moment) then one of the options will be to choose a restore point. Once selected Windows will then load/start to the selected restore point
The issue though is likely to be a software one that will not work with the Vista/windows update
Consider running CCleaner (particularly Registry it's Freeware)
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The point being ... don't fall for it. The only e-mail from SpamCop.net that would be talking about "the need" for your personal data would be in response to e-mail that "you" initiated. The reasons for "you" having to get into a discussion about your Registration details are very, very few.
This is the latest I got from this creep
http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1903842507z8...;action=display
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Despite having in my personal whitelist *[at]tigeronline.com & *[at]promo.tigeronline.com listed, some emails coming from those addresses seem to get caught in the greylist and I have to constantly allow them.
[at]tigeronline.com is not whitelisted
REMOVE THE [at] symbol and it would be
eg
tigeronline.com will whitelist
Simple recipes for guys
in Food and Cooking Techniques
Posted
http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/Heinz-Ketchup-Copycat-Recipe.html
The Heinz ketchup copy cat recipe is simple and good
In Australia we make hot English mustard from mustard powder
Or buy it ready to spread (hotness varies from brand to brand)
I mix "Coles" heaped teaspoon mustard powder with wine/apple vinegar and sweetened condensed milk till a desired paste
Recipe on tin
If too hot just add mayonnaise till "right" hotness
Not sure how American mustard is made?