petzl Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 hours ago, its8up said: Reaching gMail's daily limit is a thing that happens, and every time it is your fault. Looks like the limit for filter forwarded messages is 20. https://support.google.com/a/answer/166852?hl=en I have not any spam from OCN for ages so can't comment. But were once being flooded from china Gmail just deleted the account. I pay US$30 a year for fastmail. I don't trust Gmail, Hotmail, Facebook. If something is free, your the product! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 58 minutes ago, petzl said: I have a text file (notepad) I save regular addresses to then copy and past it into the blank box of SC's reporting page But that doesn't forward it to the right abuse address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, klappa said: But that doesn't forward it to the right abuse address? Don't know what you are talking about, life is not meant to be easy! SpamCop don't do automatic spam reporting for most members 153.149.230.3 helps if at least a IP address is given? seems the abuse address is abuse[AT]ocn.ad[DOT]jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, petzl said: Don't know what you are talking about, life is not meant to be easy! SpamCop don't do automatic spam reporting for most members 153.149.230.3 helps if at least a IP address is given? seems the abuse address is abuse[AT]ocn.ad[DOT]jp You can change the receipt recipients in settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its8up Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, petzl said: ...I don't trust Gmail, Hotmail, Facebook. If something is free, your the product! That is often the case, especially with that steaming pile Facebook. I never did sign up for that nonsense. However, email is more of a necessity. Whether you pay for the service or not, there is no way to confirm how much your email provider snoops and how much of your data they sell. 44 minutes ago, petzl said: ...SpamCop don't do automatic spam reporting for most members... Agreed. .....but with a little work, gMail will do most of it. My spam reporting is automated to the point that I just log in on spamcop and alternate between clicking "Reoprt Now" and "Send spam Report(s) Now" I also send vanilla reports to uce.gov and personalized messages to my worst spam offenders. The ocn spam is going to a total of 12 email addresses, most of those being for NTT and some of their affiliates. Heck, if you can think of a better way to call NTT management's attention to this issue or have a list of upper and middle management email addresses for NTT, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, klappa said: You can change the receipt recipients in settings. ? no but you can add a address to any report. My account should be the same as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, its8up said: The ocn spam is going to a total of 12 email addresses, most of those being for NTT and some of their affiliates. Heck, if you can think of a better way to call NTT management's attention to this issue or have a list of upper and middle management email addresses for NTT, please let me know. The last time I got OCN spam I reported it directly from my Gmail account and OCN replied and I have not got spam from there since? I also reported it through SC. Like you I check all the IP's to get the source and if there is a email server report that as well. SC usually stops at the email server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordian Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 19 hours ago, its8up said: diplomatfrankobi...? dhlcoureircompay20...? dhl_901867? WTF? Automatically replying to spam? That is a dangerous game. Some spam has reply email addresses to everyone the spammer has a grudge against. Also, with gMail there's daily limits to consider. I'm not going into the particulars because that would lead to speculation. I will divulge that my daily limit for sending email was reached several times when I first started writing a webapp for spam processing. Also, I was shut down a couple times for my application running too often. Reaching gMail's daily limit is a thing that happens, and every time it is your fault. Looks like the limit for filter forwarded messages is 20. https://support.google.com/a/answer/166852?hl=en I'M REPORTING IT TO THE NETWORKS AND THE POLICE WHEN ADVISED TOO, IT HELPS TO KNOW..........FACT IS I CAN'T EVEN REPORT IT TO GOOGLE NOW BECAUSE THEY ALLOW spam BUT DON'T LIKE US ME REPORTING IT, THEY BLANKET BLOCK EVERYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 12 hours ago, salfordian said: I'M REPORTING IT TO THE NETWORKS AND THE POLICE WHEN ADVISED TOO, IT HELPS TO KNOW..........FACT IS I CAN'T EVEN REPORT IT TO GOOGLE NOW BECAUSE THEY ALLOW spam BUT DON'T LIKE US ME REPORTING IT, THEY BLANKET BLOCK EVERYTHING Not much can do about Gmail pointy heads. Suggest you just settle for marking all spam as phishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 3:15 AM, petzl said: ? no but you can add a address to any report. My account should be the same as yours. Where can i do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisati Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Jumping in relatively late into this discussion, I've had Google block my attempts to submit reports from time to time too. My ISP does it as well. One workaround I use is to send the reports and submissions from an email account that I'm paying a little extra money for that lets me whitelist recipients. It's not perfect, but I have seen a significant improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 7 hours ago, klappa said: Where can i do that? Go to SC, preferences, Report Handling Options , Scroll down to Show Technical Details during reporting Simple output Show technical data (check this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordian Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I stopped using Spamcop because they just send reports to Hotmail even though its not Hotmail and this is this mornings reported emails all blocked by Google even though the spammers don't get blocked spamming me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 15 hours ago, petzl said: Go to SC, preferences, Report Handling Options , Scroll down to Show Technical Details during reporting Simple output Show technical data (check this one) I already had this. And what does it let me forward to other addresses? I suppose you're not meaning Public report recipients? 3 hours ago, salfordian said: I stopped using Spamcop because they just send reports to Hotmail even though its not Hotmail and this is this mornings reported emails all blocked by Google even though the spammers don't get blocked spamming me It's the same for me. Every spam i get is being sent to report_spam@hotmail.com. I thought it was working as intended or doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its8up Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yo SALFORDIAN! How many daily SPAMs are you dealing with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 hours ago, klappa said: It's the same for me. Every spam i get is being sent to report_spam@hotmail.com. I thought it was working as intended or doesn't it? If SpamCop has a abuse @ address overridden by code it won't, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, petzl said: If SpamCop has a abuse @ address overridden by code it won't, How can i know if an abuse address is overridden by code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 8 hours ago, klappa said: How can i know if an abuse address is overridden by code? Only when it is too late, the official Hotmail abuse address will be changed to repor_spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, petzl said: Only when it is too late, the official Hotmail abuse address will be changed to repor_spam You have to be more detailed. I don't understand what you mean. Checking the reports the spam does indeed get sent to report_spam at hotmail dot com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 hours ago, klappa said: You have to be more detailed. I don't understand what you mean. Checking the reports the spam does indeed get sent to report_spam at hotmail dot com. Even if you type in abuse at homail SpamCop won't send it there, it will only go to "report_spam at hotmail dot com" because of it being program coded to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordian Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 The best way to report spam and return paths being used on the MS network is abuse@outlook.com as they always get back to me when Google isn't blocking the reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordian Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 19 hours ago, its8up said: Yo SALFORDIAN! How many daily SPAMs are you dealing with? The OCN network is around 6 plus a day however a new comer is on the street, I'm getting around 16 a day from aruba.it and so far they've done nothing apart from responding to the Facebook page that they've dealt with it, they never do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klappa Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 hours ago, petzl said: Even if you type in abuse at homail SpamCop won't send it there, it will only go to "report_spam at hotmail dot com" because of it being program coded to do so So you're saying report_spam at hotmail dot com doesn't work? And what do you mean by typing it in? Where should i type it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its8up Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Please DO NOT report ocn.ad.jp spam to abuse_support. Doing such can get a fool marked as a spam generator. Honestly, when I said we were sending our complaints to the wrong place, I did not intend for anyone to report to abuse_support. I was talking about sending the ocn spam to internal NTT email addresses with a note explaining the grievance. The thought behind this was that after so many years, perhaps harassing the employees could lead to getting the attention of management. IT WORKED. My newly gained inside contact, who I believe is in the UK, expressed our concerns to NTT in Japan. His Japanese colleague has escalated this issue to NTT Com Security. He asked that I remove abuse_support from mailings to prevent my being identified as a source of spam, and I recommend all of you do the same. Just keep reporting via SPAMCOP as normal. Something WILL be done about this. It is only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordian Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, its8up said: Please DO NOT report ocn.ad.jp spam to abuse_support. Doing such can get a fool marked as a spam generator. Honestly, when I said we were sending our complaints to the wrong place, I did not intend for anyone to report to abuse_support. I was talking about sending the ocn spam to internal NTT email addresses with a note explaining the grievance. The thought behind this was that after so many years, perhaps harassing the employees could lead to getting the attention of management. IT WORKED. My newly gained inside contact, who I believe is in the UK, expressed our concerns to NTT in Japan. His Japanese colleague has escalated this issue to NTT Com Security. He asked that I remove abuse_support from mailings to prevent my being identified as a source of spam, and I recommend all of you do the same. Just keep reporting via SPAMCOP as normal. Something WILL be done about this. It is only a matter of time. Why wouldn't you want people to use the correct email address, OCN do reply to this unlike the one Spamcop uses, OCN don't take any action but they do reply to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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