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The "Right" way of doing this would have been to add the IPv6 detection code, and have it log to a file for debugging. This doesn't change the existing behavior from the user perspective.
Since you know the spamcop code so well, why don't you write your own parser with IPv6 working and we can all use your code and leave SPamCop behind.
Sorry, but I am tired of everyone coming in here "knowing" how easy it would be to fix this problem when they have no idea what the code looks like, code which was self-described by the original developer as "spaghetti".
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Getting closer... this was posted in the newsgroups...
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From: Richard W
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:48 PM Newsgroups: spamcop Subject: Re: How long do IPv6 spammers get to skate?
IPv6 parsing and reporting support will be in the next maintenance
update (4.7). It's going through QA right now.
Richard
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Thank you Richard for this update
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Now if I can get it to run automatically, I'll begin to feel I can trust email again, a bit.
I run MailStore automatically from a schedualed task each night.
"C:\MAIL\MailStore Home\Application\MailStoreHome.exe" /portable /c archive --id="1"
I then have a command file I run from time to time (could schedule that as well) to mirror the files to the network.
I have another command file to mirror back to C:\Mail so it can be viewed on any machine/account on my network. Sometimes it is a pain having so many home machines
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I asked over there whether it can handle subfolders, with a pointer back to this discussion:
I only use IMAP connection to SpamCop and that can definitely select any/all subfolders on the server. I only use grab Inbox and Sent Items for my use.
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Most useful email backup program is 'MailStore' where rather than normal way backup it works by importing email into its own store.
I just checked out the MailStore program referenced by charliedawgs and there are 2 versions. A commercial program and a free home version which also includes a portable app that can be installed on a flash drive.
My current configuration: My wife and daughter (and soon my son) each have their own gmail accounts which they access directly either via web or IMAP. For archive (and monitoring of the children), I have their gmail accounts setup to forward all messages to my spamcop account, leaving the original on the gmail server for them to access. My own gmail account is set to forward to spamcop and delete since I only access the spamcop account everywhere via IMAP. I'm currently using the MailStore program to archive messages from my spamcop account and delete all but the last 30 days. I could have MailStore access each individual account, but then I would need their passwords kept up to date.
The main drawback for me is that network storage is not supported. I wanted to install it on the hard drive I have attached to my router forming a NAS device but it comes up with a warning that only local storage is supported. As a work around, I installed the portable version on a local disk (C:\MAIL), archive the mail from there, and have a robocopy scri_pt to archive the entire directory to my NAS (\\fileserver\USBDisk\MAIL). I created another scri_pt to copy the archive (program and data) to the local C: of whatever machine runs the scri_pt so that my wife or I can access our old emails. I just need to make sure I update the network copy whenever I archive.
The only other drawback which I have not fully investigated is that I don't think I can fully automate the archive as I would like to have it run once a week without needing to interact with the program. You can create a shortcut of the archive step on the desktop which brings up the application (thus the machine would need to be logged in). Perhaps I will add it to my login on the desktop (used only occasionally by me) to archive email and backup to network.
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If I submitted a test forward, would that be seen as an honest test or as a "falsified report"? As I have explained before, I don't allow any spam etc. on to my computer so I can't forward a real spam from Outlook.
We are going to have to wait for the new interface to be developed before we can know how it is going to work. It may reject just when forwarded which means even test messages will fail when you forward them. It may accept the forward then complain when you try to send the reports which means you could send test messages, though I don't know why you would. You will (as far as we know at this point) be able to copy/paste spam at any time. That is how I am currently reporting.
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I have no idea and I don't see any way of getting them to do that from this end. Most people wouldn't know what to do anyway I would imagine.
If one could only read the emails and/or the headers for items caught in the greylist it might help.
That is the whole point of greylisting, the email/headers have not been accepted yet, so less traffic has been transferred. Apparently it will not work for you.
The first things sent during an SMTP transaction are:
EHLO/HELO (telling the receiver who the senders server says they are which can attempt to be confirmed by an IP lookup)
MAIL FROM: (telling the receiver what the senders email address is)
RCPT TO: (telling the receiver who the message is addressed to)
That information, along with the IP address which the receiver sees is the information that is rejected the first time it is seen and stored for the retry. When it sees the same pairing a second time within its programmed window, it will allow the message to pass.
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Your choice, of course.I've had to stop using it because it occasionally catches legitimate emails and, unless I can pounce on that within 30 minutes, I'm doomed and have lost that email forever.Do you mean the sender will refuse to resend it? After the sending server timesout its retries, it should be sending a failure to the originator explaining the issue. I know that was happening on one of friends emails (Lotus Notes user). He contacted me through another friend and I whitelisted him, no problem.
The issue is that case was that their retry was set to something longer than the SpamCop window was (something like an hour) so every retry was seen as a new message.
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I've got a free Yahoo account and I've tried using both the "all-new Yahoo! mail" and the classic, with no difference.
Anyone else having issues with their Yahoo messages not getting picked up?
Sounds like what my configuration was and as noted in October, I gave up then. Turning on the Yahoo spam filters (in new mail) and reporting directly from Yahoo (after switching back to Classic, spam filters stay enabled) the 2 or 3 I see each month is working for me.
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I'm having problems again with Yahoo popgate2 mail. The message that I get is "Cannot contact server". Anyone else having this problem?
I gave up on it a while back as I have net been able to get it to work consistently. I changed all my Yahoo alerts direct to spamcop, switched to the old Yahoo Mail, and forward as attachment the few spams I do get there. There is a post in the newsgroups about this issue as well, stating problems with all different pop configurations, not just popgate2. I do not have any ewrrors on my gmail POP.
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I see that people have been requesting the ability to upload a whitelist file for at least two years.
So why open a new thread? This is being moved into the existing [Pinned] thread.
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Wazoo, I didn't see how more details would help. Anyone using the userid%domain notation in the mail account field is presumably aware of it and if they are not so aware mentioning the name of my ten year-old mail client running under Win95B isn't likely to help them *be* aware.
It might help us answer questions of others who come along using old versions of applications. Too much information is never a problem, only not enough.
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Thank you David.... This morning I still had the same message and 2 additional ones. I have merked them as spam in Yahoo's interface and removed then from the Inbox and will test now to see what happens.I have sent a test message to my Yahoo address and I'll report back about what happens.(on edit) The message got successfully picked up by popgate2 and delivered to my SpamCop inbox.
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Just to keep people up to date (and to get confirmation from others)...
I have had a message in my Yahoo inbox since sometime 12:43 this afternoon and it still has not been picked up by popgate.
Looking at my Popgate configuration page, there are NO errors being reported. Resaved setting has not helped yet.
I have contacted SpamCop Support via the webmail Problem link.
Is anyone else seeing this? I don't know when this might have started because I have removed everything (except direct spam) from using that address since the last problem.
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From what I just saw when I logged into my Yahoo mailbox, popgate2 for Yahoo appears to have been broken since mid-June.
Yes, I have reported it to them throughout...longer than June if I recall correctly (need to check my other machine for archives. Today, the original Yahoo worked for me picking up using popgate2.
When I switch to the new Yahoo mail interface, messages are still not picked up and popgate is reporting the error: Unknown error: 4
*UPDATE* These messages did come down la bit ater and do not have the issue shown below. Possible I was making the switch during the download or possibly the error was due to some type of cache issue?
I did have another issue with the original Yahoo mail however in that webmail is not picking out the headers correctly, instead displaying: Unknown Date Invalid Address [No Subject] for all messages downloaded. Those same headers when later downloaded to Outlook Express show up fine.
This has all been reported to support.
This has been the most frustrating part of Spamcop and frankly I pay my Spamcop dues only because I can pop Yahoo and Hotmail.That was likely a poor investment since, as I understand it, you can collect Hotmail via other means and a paid Yahoo account (which allows popping) is 50% cheaper than a mail account.
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This is NOT a sendmail forum... you will need to do some of your own work here. I am trying to give you hints that might help in your search.bandsman.co.uk' post='65132' date='Jun 12 2008, 11:26 AM']It is indeed likely to be a sendmail issue not a spamcop issue, hence the subject "sendmail woes".
[root[at]bandsman log]# fgrep spam.spamcop.net maillog | tail -1
Jun 12 16:20:02 bandsman sendmail[15049]: m5CFK2t2015049: m5CFK2t3015049: DSN: <
submit.xxxxxxxxxxxxx[at]spam.spamcop.net>... Unrecognized host name spam.spamcop
.net.
[root[at]bandsman log]#
The ping is not relevant. There is no host spam.spamcop.net.
Your system seems to think that 3 level domains can not have their own mail server and instead interprets it as a hostname in the spamcop.net domain. In Lotus Notes (my last job), there were connection documents to define this (i.e. *.* = internet, *.*.* = internet, etc.)
Any mail server is supposed to be doing an MX record lookup on the right side of the address first before attempting an A record lookup. Figure out why it is not, and your problem is solved.
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For those of you directly POPping Yahoo mail... this message I recently found on the Yahoo blog may be for you:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ymailblog/~3/308403149/
Basically, they are having major problems with the recent rollout of new features (including SSL) and are rolling back the features.
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bandsman.co.uk' post='65127' date='Jun 11 2008, 05:13 PM']
All of my reports to spam.spamcop.net fail because whilst there's an MX record for spam.spamcop.net, there's no A record so sendmail says
<submit.xxxxxxxxxxxxx[at]spam.spamcop.net>... Unrecognized host name spam.spamcop.net.
This started happening a few weeks ago. Is there a mailertable hack I can do to get around it? I'm using sendmail 8.14.2.
I don't know what your system is doing...it should not be looking for an A record for spam.spamcop.net. It should be finding the MX record for spam.spamcop.net and using vmx1.spamcop.net or vmx2.spamcop.net
Perhaps you installed some kind of update about the time the problem started happening? Have you checked the lookup manually that you did not place some kind of local hosts table?
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright © 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\sunderwood>nslookup
Default Server: resolver1.opendns.com
Address: 208.67.222.222
> set type=mx
> spam.spamcop.net
Server: resolver1.opendns.com
Address: 208.67.222.222
Non-authoritative answer:
spam.spamcop.net MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = vmx2.spamcop.net
spam.spamcop.net MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = vmx1.spamcop.net
> set type=any
> vmx2.spamcop.net
Server: resolver1.opendns.com
Address: 208.67.222.222
Non-authoritative answer:
vmx2.spamcop.net internet address = 204.15.82.29
>
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Hi Brad, your query has drawn no response so far so to get something happening ...
I just looked in my account and found only 1 sender (alerts[at]live.com) which had multiple blocks. What I take it to mean is that their server does not re-send the message within the time window spamcop is configured for. They may not ever re-send the message as they may be multiple messages. I have allowed that entry to see what that message is. Don't remember signing up for live.com alerts, but it is possible.
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It's not myself I'm worried about (I don't usually email myself), it's everyone else using the PBL.
I've never had an issue having my messages blocked by the PBL for others.
Also, I would like to see you TOS that says you can not use external SMTP servers. I know it is not against my TOS.
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FYI, it appears Yahoo has broken things again. I've got a bunch of email in my Yahoo account. I don't see any errors in my pop list, but it also doesn't appear to be downloading Yahoo mail any more either. I'm still on Yahoo "classic" but they've changed things around again. Probably in order to get us to pony up the $20(US) for "enhanced" access (including pop access.)
I've been having issues for a couple of weeks receiving messages dated in the year 2038 which never seem to be downloaded. I simply delete them and things begin working again. I have also had intermittant times when I get an "Invalid login" error in the POP config. Simply hitting the modify button (no changes made) removes the error message and starts mail flowing again.
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I actually confirmed here that it was a problem and sent off an email to support. The old system was not working for me before or after the new machine was put into service.Do you see any Yahoo mails being POPped? Do you think that it was working a couple of days ago, right before we made the switch? -
I get along with most people I meet, in person or online, but there's something...hmmm...you wouldn't happen to be a Republican or a Libertarian, would you? That would explain it.
Nope, I'm from Massachusetts and have voted for only Democrats since I was 18.
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I am deeply disappointed in this decision as a long time supporter. My heart sank a little yesterday reading this message yesterday. I use SpamCop to collect all my other email accounts for a single collection point, to provide SMTP, and to provide many email addresses for various accounts, mostly the opposite of what I can now use it for.
I second the above questions, though I may/may not request a refund and simply let the account expire to try and catch/transfer the many accounts that I used spamcop for.
I will be using my ISP to collect my email from my various other accounts. I will continue to report my spam, possibly through a new free reporting account which will reset my reporting number from the current incorrect number from several years ago:
Welcome, Steven P. Underwood (Home).
Your average reporting time is: 6.3 days; Not bad.