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I recently had a problem with a very active, professional mailing list (PM-WIN for Pegasus email). I have long used a SpamGourmet address for the list because in the early days spammers were harvesting address for spamming. Recently, SpamGourmet was listed in the blacklist, and every post by every user was rejected by my site, and a bounce message was sent to the original poster.

Given the nature of SpamGourmet (exists to kill spam), I feel they should be exempt from listing in the SpamCop Blacklist.

The notice from a highly-relable user:

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It appears that bullwhacker.info's mail server is rejecting attempts

from spamgourmet.com to send email, due to spamcop having listed

spamgourmet.com in its DNSBL (c.f. attached bounce message, one of

several):

Unfortunately, spamgourmet's mail server is then bouncing the

rejected emails to the original poster.

There appears to be a major brokenness here:

spamgourmet.com's mail servers are bouncing messages to their

original sender (easily forgeable), making the servers a potential

source of 'backscatter' spam -- bounces of spam to forged sender

addresses. Spamgourmet.com should, instead, reject such emails

after receipt of DATA (i.e. during the SMTP mail transaction in

which the message is received).

Josh, you should know better!

Please fix these brokennesses.

PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net, please use a reliable MX

instead of a broken one.

Regards

GRB

--- snip ---

Return-Path: Greg R. Broderick -

gregb+pmail[at]blackholio.dyndns.org<+PMWinList+vaquero+52180148f8.gregb+pmai

l#blackholio.dyndns.org[at]spamgourmet.com>

Received: from gourmet.spamgourmet.com (gourmet.spamgourmet.com

[216.218.230.146] (may be forged))

by blackholio.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id

k7DFoU514008

for <gregb+pmail[at]BLACKHOLIO.DYNDNS.ORG>; Sun, 13 Aug 2006

10:50:31 -0500

Received: from gourmet.spamgourmet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id

k7DFsUbW029480

for <gregb+pmail[at]BLACKHOLIO.DYNDNS.ORG>; Sun, 13 Aug 2006

08:54:30 -0700

Received: (from jqh1[at]localhost)

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) id

k7DFsU6k029479

for gregb+pmail[at]BLACKHOLIO.DYNDNS.ORG; Sun, 13 Aug 2006

08:54:30 -0700

Received: from localhost (localhost)

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) id k7DFsU4Z029471;

Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:54:30 -0700

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:54:30 -0700

From: PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net

Message-Id: <200608131554.k7DFsU4Z029471[at]gourmet.spamgourmet.com>

To: gregb+pmail[at]BLACKHOLIO.DYNDNS.ORG

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;

boundary="k7DFsU4Z029471.1155484470/gourmet.spamgourmet.com"

Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

X-Spamgourmet:

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--k7DFsU4Z029471.1155484470/gourmet.spamgourmet.com

The original message was received at Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:54:29 -0700

from localhost [127.0.0.1]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

<PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net>

(reason: 550-your mail server 216.218.230.146 is in a black list

at bl.spamcop.net)

----- Transcript of session follows -----

... while talking to bullwhacker.info.:

>>> DATA

<<< 550-your mail server 216.218.230.146 is in a black list at

bl.spamcop.net

<<< 550 (Blocked - see

http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.218.230.146)

550 5.1.1 <PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net>... User unknown

451 4.4.1 reply: read error from bullwhacker.info.

--k7DFsU4Z029471.1155484470/gourmet.spamgourmet.com

Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; gourmet.spamgourmet.com

Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost

Arrival-Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:54:29 -0700

Final-Recipient: RFC822; PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net

Action: failed

Status: 5.1.1

Remote-MTA: DNS; bullwhacker.info

Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550-your mail server 216.218.230.146 is in a

black list at bl.spamcop.net

Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:54:30 -0700

--k7DFsU4Z029471.1155484470/gourmet.spamgourmet.com

Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers

Return-Path: PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net

Received: from gourmet.spamgourmet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id

k7DFlplX020095

for <PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net>; Sun, 13 Aug 2006

08:54:29 -0700

Received: (from jqh1[at]localhost)

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) id

k719lpjD022063

for PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net; Tue, 1 Aug 2006

02:47:51 -0700

Received: from listserv.ua.edu (listserv.ua.edu [130.160.4.249])

by gourmet.spamgourmet.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id

k719lk6W022023

for <PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]RECURSOR.NET>; Tue, 1 Aug 2006

02:47:47 -0700

Received: from bama (bama.ua.edu) by listserv.ua.edu (LSMTP for

Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <3.004A2207[at]listserv.ua.edu>; Tue, 1

Aug 2006 3:28:48 -0500

Received: by BAMA.UA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.5) with spool

id 485638

for PM-WIN[at]BAMA.UA.EDU; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:31:06 -0500

Received: from listserv.ua.edu (listserv.ua.edu [130.160.4.249]) by

bama.ua.edu

(8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k718V6UU022645 for

<PM-WIN[at]BAMA.UA.EDU>; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:31:06 -0500 (CDT)

Received: from listserv (listserv.ua.edu) by listserv.ua.edu (LSMTP

for Windows

NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004A25EF[at]listserv.ua.edu>; Tue,

1 Aug 2006

3:28:46 -0500

Received: by LISTSERV.UA.EDU (LISTSERV AV Station release 1.1/14.5)

with spool

id 60778 for PM-WIN[at]BAMA.UA.EDU; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:28:46

-0500

Received: from blackholio.dyndns.org (66-101-59-41-

static.dsl.oplink.net

[66.101.59.41]) by bama.ua.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with

ESMTP id

k718V5rf022622 for <PM-WIN[at]BAMA.UA.EDU>; Tue, 1 Aug 2006

03:31:05

-0500 (CDT)

Received: from europa.blackholio.dyndns.org

(europa.blackholio.dyndns.org

[10.0.0.4]) by blackholio.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with

ESMTP id

k718R8501793; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:27:08 -0500

MIME-Version: 1.0

Priority: normal

References: <44CE889F.14514.164CDB8[at]jelly.lang.hm>

X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41)

Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Content-description: Mail message body

Message-ID:

<44CECB36.18400.65D418CC[at]gregb+pmail.blackholio.dyndns.org>

Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:32:06 -0500

Reply-To: PMWinList.zero.vaquero[at]recursor.net

Sender: Greg R. Broderick -

gregb+pmail[at]blackholio.dyndns.org<+PMWinList+vaquero+52180148f8.gregb+pmai

l#blackholio.dyndns.org[at]spamgourmet.com>

From: "Greg R. Broderick - gregb+pmail[at]BLACKHOLIO.DYNDNS.ORG"<>

Subject: Re: UA Mail List Feature

Comments: To: "James E. Lang" <jelly[at]lang.hm>

To: PM-WIN[at]BAMA.UA.EDU

In-Reply-To: <44CE889F.14514.164CDB8[at]jelly.lang.hm>

Precedence: list

List-Help: <http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=PM-WIN>,'>http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=PM-WIN>,

<mailto:LISTSERV[at]BAMA.UA.EDU?body=INFO PM-WIN>

List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:PM-WIN-unsubscribe-request[at]BAMA.UA.EDU>

List-Subscribe: <mailto:PM-WIN-subscribe-request[at]BAMA.UA.EDU>

List-Owner: <mailto:PM-WIN-request[at]BAMA.UA.EDU>

List-Archive: <http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=PM-WIN>

X-Spamgourmet: (PMWinList: addressed to exclusive sender for this

address)

--k7DFsU4Z029471.1155484470/gourmet.spamgourmet.com--

--

===========================================================

Greg R. Broderick gregb[at]blackholio.dyndns.org

-----------------------------------------------------------

"Give a man a program, and you will frustrate him for

a day; teach him how to program, and you will frustrate

him for a lifetime." -- Anonymous

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Guest bullwhacker
Why would a broken mail server that is sending unsolicited bounces (read spam) to forged reply addresses be exempted? Simply fix the problem and the listing will go away.

Higly useful. I should fix a mailserver at a company I have nothing to do with in order to handle the fact that SpamCop in its arrogance blacklists a company they have no business blacklisting? Great advice.

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Rant all you want, as long as that company is spamming SpamCop users it will be listed...

And here are some examples of the type of junk coming from that server:

Report History:

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Submitted: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:52:52 AM -0400:

aw2082570.usr3.takatsuさんと…

1874584997 ( http://www.venusnetwork.cx/c/index.html ) To: net-abuse[at]odn.ad.jp

1874584994 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874584984 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:53:35 PM -0400:

当選!おめでとうござ...

1874509207 ( http://uzxi.com/index.php?num=117 ) To: abuse[at]bora.net

1874509201 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874509196 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:52:20 PM -0400:

Re: netaq

1874508060 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874508056 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:51:27 PM -0400:

緊急の確認です!

1874507249 ( http://www.bokimasumi.com/happyenjyo ) To: abuse[at]sphere.ad.jp

1874507248 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874507242 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:50:53 PM -0400:

Re: byaef

1874506549 ( http://www.opkiledase.com/ ) To: abuse[at]scn.com.cn

1874506548 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874506546 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 9:22:46 PM -0400:

松本真理恵直アド配信

1874445648 ( http://gjsg.com/?marie ) To: abuse[at]bora.net

1874445640 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874445628 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:53:56 PM -0400:

あなたの神経は太す{...

1874425300 ( http://dbldbl.com/?2016 ) To: abuse[at]bora.net

1874425299 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874425294 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:44:58 PM -0400:

指名されました

1874419768 ( http://uzxi.com/?num=2525(yx7'( ) To: abuse[at]bora.net

1874419766 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874419764 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:44:38 PM -0400:

指名されました

1874419607 ( http://uzxi.com/?num=2525(yx7'( ) To: abuse[at]bora.net

1874419606 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874419605 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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Submitted: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:35:04 PM -0400:

明後日お時間ありま{...

1874413503 ( http://deai-fresh.com/freenight ) To: abuse[at]sphere.ad.jp

1874413499 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1874413496 ( 216.218.230.146 ) To: abuse[at]he.net

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