elind Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I've used Spamcop for several years and have been satisfied with the filtering, and also thought that I was providing a service to the community at large (and got some personal satisfaction) by reporting spammers. Over 15000 reports so far, as an individual. Most of my reports have been accurate, of real spammers, but recently I received a test email from a list manager (that I subscribe to), but the email looked like a blank test spam from an unrecognized origin, and I reported it. However it was a poorly composed message but not spam and I eventually had an exchange (friendly) with the list manager sorting this out. I received the following opinion which I thought I would share here, and I would be interested to hear any comments. (Names of the innocents have been removed to protect the guilty) Quote: No responsible ISP would use Spamcop. We used to use them, when they first started, but they are too unreliable. There are good places, such as Spamhaus, which we use routinely to block spam before it even enters our networks. I could tell you many horror stories about Spamcop (and places like them), but just consider this: Because of spamcop's policy of hiding the identity of the reporter, when I get a report of spam from them, there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. They only reason I was able to do something in your case is because there were enough clues left in the message that I was able to establish your identity. If I used ordinary mailing list software, this wouldn't be possible. I wouldn't even be able to remove your name from a mailing list that you didn't want to be on, or track down users who were reporting each others posts to spamcop because they were upset with each other, and thought that by doing so they would someone make life difficult for each other. (Yes, this happens, and fairly often too.) Meanwhile, spamcop has listed us as a spam source in their database, and I have to deal with thousands of bounces from lists that I donate to organizations such as xxxx and xxxxx free of charge, because of misbehaving users whose identity spamcop is attempting to hide from me. There is something here about 'no good deed goes unpunished...'. I admit this is much less of a problem now, since since fewer and fewer places are using spamcop to bounce spam. At this point, I think I would just delete the users who use those sites, since it is much less hastle for me than trying to straighten out the whole mess. And of course, Spamcop moronically lists a mailing list origin as the origin of the spam. This only helps hide the identity of the spammers. For example, if a piece of spam gets through to the xxxxx list (which is unlikely, but could happen), and you report this as spam, it is my network that is listed as the spam origin site, not the spammer, who remains anonymous and protected. So, in short, if you are happy with spamcop, good for you. I remain unimpressed. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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