No disrespect

[Farelf]

Wow - "kemo sabe", it is an issue? Re: http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...indpost&p=32851 The Supreme Court of Canada has rejected the request of the Human Rights Commission in Nova Scotia to review the provincial Court of Appeal's decision to uphold a Board of Inquiry's finding that "the word Kemosabe" (sic) was not "notoriously offensive". But the HRC considers other ways to force the issue - see http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...ourt050428.html

Maybe someone confused the Lone Ranger with the Lone Haranguer? The intention of the phrase was certainly innocent enough, and mutually respectful - see http://www.old-time.com/misc/kemo.html The mutual respect aspect is certainly a message I took from watching the show in my boyhood days (to get to Australia in those days, I think the film cannisters were backloaded onto the first available tea-clipper then carried across the Nullarbor by camel train but I digress).

If the Human Rights Rights Commission can imagine abuse exists after reviewing countless hours of Lone Ranger clips for presentation one hopes their spam filters are really effective! Perspective ... at a certain level, it is the intent (perception) and the context that might cause offence (but that applies to any word or phrase) and the whole "ownership and insecurity" issue ("these things are ours alone, you must not use them against us") but apparently those were not matters addressed.

In the meantime, I'm sure no disrespect was meant to Ms Dorothy Kateri Moore of the Mi'kmaq (or to anyone else) in these forums by calling anyone "Faithful Friend" in any language.

[turetzsr]

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Maybe someone confused the Lone Ranger with the Lone Haranguer?  The intention of the phrase was certainly innocent enough, and mutually respectful - see http://www.old-time.com/misc/kemo.html

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...My memory is very vague on this but I seem to recall some instances where Tonto (and perhaps other Indians) was referred to as Kemo Sabe in an ironic or mocking tone by white men other than the Lone Ranger.

[dbiel]

Interesting how memories differ.

I remember the term being used by Tonto in reference to the Lone Ranger.

[Merlyn]

I remember it both ways! Both of the using it????

[turetzsr]

I remember it both ways!  Both of the using it????

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...That's what I recall, too. More by Tonto but also at times by LR.

[Farelf]

Makes you wonder about the nature of memory, doesn't it? "Genuine", versus "manufactured" (suggestibility). Easy to see why some people might be a little touchy - and why the Court of Appeal was obliged to spend a day watching the original film clips (presumably just selected exerpts in the main). But, as said, "mutual respect" (and used by each) was my first impression, before reviewing the materials.

Incidentally, this case was supposedly presented as No 10 in the "ten wackiest employment law cases" in the National Law Journal (US) by Gerald Skoning of Seyfarth Shaw in Chicago (I have no further references). Strikes me as a touch insensitive if so (sensitivity not in the job description - not compensatable/remunerable) but, first impressions again, certainly amazement that the case was brought, let alone appealed then referred to the Supreme Court.

[shmengie]

I bet the plaintiff was overweight and they were pronouncing it keyMOO slobby.

LOL

Sorry, I go now.