dbiel Posted May 20, 2006 Posted May 20, 2006 The SpamCop.net system is basically divided into two separate entities: the SpamCop Parsing Service & Blocklist; and the SpamCop Email Service. Some of the components of SpamCop are free, some paid, some technical. Likewise support for the SpamCop.net system comes in various forms. Two of the major support venues include this Forum as well as its predecessor, the Newsgroups (which are still very much alive and well) The primary mode of support in the Newsgroups and these Forums is peer-to-peer, meaning users helping other users. As such, the Newsgroups and/or these Forums do not provide Official SpamCop.net Customer Support. The Forum Admin and Forum Moderators are not employees of SpamCop.net and receive no payment for their services. They are just regular users of parts of the SpamCop.net system who have chosen to get involved in supporting it using this Forum structure. As there are many different aspects to SpamCop, the members of these forums come with various areas of expertise. That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters range from end users with little or no technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. The same holds true for the Newsgroups where the structure is more informal but the primary support base remains a dedicated group of volunteers. That said, the regular users of the SpamCop Forums have built an archive of Frequently Asked Questions (User Created FAQ or UC FAQ) that can be used to answer most questions, and in the process of trying to answer questions, users are often pointed to the FAQ - either the original SC FAQ (official, but out of date) or the UC FAQ (constantly being updated). The FAQs also provide a way for people with questions to find the answer and not have to post and wait for an answer. Also there's a SpamCop-oriented Dictionary / Glossary available to all ... please take a look at these, the newer SpamCop Dictionary and the original SpamCop Glossary. There is also an new Wiki under development to be yet one more source of information. And do not forget the original Newsgroups. The user to user forum often provides faster and more complete answers. However, if you want to talk to a SpamCop employee about Reporting and Blocklist issues, please use this link to the web submission forms at SpamCop Web submission form which is designed to ask specific questions and extract information that leads to resolution on first contact, rather than having to write back and forth a few times. For Additional information about this Forum please see: How to Use this Forum Link to the SpamCop Forum FAQ This link also appears at the top of every page as a clickable link titled "Forum FAQ". For Additional information about the Newsgroups please see: SpamCop Newsgroups, List of current newsgroups A link also appears at the top of every page as a clickable link titled "Newsgroups" which will automatically open up your default newsreader. Note: the "Newsgroups" links, found through out this topic, link to a forum topic discussing the newsgroups and contain separate links to each of the individual newsgroup as well as a description of their intended use. If you decide to ask your question in the Forum, there are various forums for questions pertaining to the Email Service, the Reporting Service, the Blocklist. Before you post, look at the following link for typical questions. There is also information you need to provide before anyone will be able to answer your questions; as well as suggestions as to just where to ask your question. Links to Typical Questions & How to Ask a Question If you are interested in the Reporting Services of SpamCop, then the following two links will be of interest to you: Short List of FAQ, for new users of SpamCop Reporting and New Users of SpamCop Reporting System - Items to Include when Posting a Question If all else fails, the following contains a list of email addresses for SpamCop.net employees: http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...;f=12&id=23 See Section 8 - SpamCop's System & Active Staff for a list of the names of the people who are involved at the staff level as well as active in the Forums. Note: original source of this topic can be found at Welcome to the SpamCop Forum!, How to get answers (1st Draft) Sorry, most users are no longer able to access this archived item as it has been tucked away for safe keeping. note the following updates: edited 5-23-06 per suggestions from Steve T (turetzsr) edited 5-24-06 per Wazoo to fix link "Links to Typical Questions & How to Ask a Question"(deleted &mode=threaded which was copied in error. edited 5-27-06 to correct title per Farelf edited 6-17-06 to adds new links to new copy created by Miss Betsy edited 6-26-06 deleted link to the alternate view of the UC FAQ as Miss Betsy chose to remove the data being linked to. edited 7-3-06 to include references and links to the SpamCop Newsgroups as suggested by Mike Easter
turetzsr Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 ...Hey, this looks pretty good. Thanks, dbiel! <g> ...Small and probably unimportant proposed changes to the first two paragraphs, primarily to bring what I feel are the most important factors to earlier parts of the paragraphs: The SpamCop.net system is basically divided into two separate entities: the SpamCop Parsing Service & Blocklist; and the SpamCop Email Service. Some of the components of SpamCop are free, some paid, some technical. See Section 8 - SpamCop's System & Active Staff for a list of the names of the people who are involved. The primary mode of support in these forums is peer-to-peer, meaning users helping other users. As such, these Forums do not provide Official SpamCop.net Customer Support. The Forum Admin and Forum Moderators are not employees of SpamCop.net and receive no payment for their services. They are just regular users of parts of the SpamCop.net system who have chosen to get involved in supporting it using this Forum structure. As there are many different aspects to SpamCop, the members of these forums come with various areas of expertise. That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters include end users with little or no technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. Moderator edit: the following quote was added to preserve the original entry before editing it. The SpamCop.net system has various components, some free, some paid, some technical. Basically divided into two separate entities: the SpamCop Parsing Service & Blocklist; and the SpamCop Email Service. Section 8 - SpamCop's System & Active Staff gives the names of the people who are involved. The primary mode of support in these forums is peer-to-peer, meaning users helping other users. As there are many different aspects to SpamCop, the members of these fourms come with various areas of expertise. That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters include end users with little or no technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. These Forums do not provide Official SpamCop.net Customer Support. The Forum Admin and Forum Moderators are not employees of SpamCop.net and receive no payment for their services. They are just regular users of parts of the SpamCop.net system who have chosen to get involved in supporting it using this Forum structure. That said, the regular users of the SpamCop Forums have built an archive of Frequently Asked Questions (User Created FAQ or UC FAQ) that can be used to answer most questions, and in the process of trying to answer questions, users are often pointed to the FAQ - either the original SC FAQ (official, but out of date) or the UC FAQ (constantly being updated). The FAQs also provide a way for people with questions to find the answer and not have to post and wait for an answer. An alternate view of the UC FAC can be found at Welcome to the SpamCop Forum!, How to get answers, Also there's a SpamCop-oriented Dictionary / Glossary available to all ... please take a look at these, the newer SpamCop Dictionary and the original SpamCop Glossary. The user to user forum often provides faster and more complete answers. However, if you want to talk to a SpamCop employee about Reporting and Blocklist issues, please use this link to the web submission forms at SpamCop Web submission form which is designed to ask specific questions and extract information that leads to resolution on first contact, rather than having to write back and forth a few times. For Additional information about this Forum please see: How to Use this Forum If you decide to ask your question in the Forum, there are various forums for questions pertaining to the Email Service, the Reporting Service, the Blocklist. Before you post, look at the following link for typical questions. There is also information you need to provide before anyone will be able to answer your questions; as well as suggestions as to just where to ask your question. Links to Typical Questions & How to Ask a Question If all else fails, the following contains a list of email addresses for SpamCop.net employees: http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...unce&f=12&id=23 Note: original source of this topic can be found at Welcome to the SpamCop Forum!, How to get answers
dbiel Posted May 23, 2006 Author Posted May 23, 2006 Thanks Steve I have edited the first post and also rewrote the following sentence since I did not like the way it was reading: That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters range from end users with little or no technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email.
turetzsr Posted May 23, 2006 Posted May 23, 2006 Thanks Steve I have edited the first post and also rewrote the following sentence since I did not like the way it was reading: That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters range from end users with little or no technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. ...You're most welcome, glad I helped. ...Thanks for your rewording the last sentence of the second paragraph -- I agree wholeheartedly that it now sounds much better (as you probably figured out, I blindly copied in the original version)! ...Note: at first, I misunderstood why you edited my reply to include your original post and almost re-edited it to remove that original post! Happily, I realized what you had done just in time. Next time a similar situation comes up, you may wish to consider either adding the original text to a reply that you post or mark up your original post in a way that conserves but makes clear you wish to change the original wording. Thanks!
dbiel Posted May 27, 2006 Author Posted May 27, 2006 Due to the new link at the top of every forum to the new single announcement which links back to this topic, this topic has been move to the FAQ Under Construction Forum to avoid creating links that work for some but not for others.
Wazoo Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Have to ask, is there another version of this floating around somewhere? I distinctly remember editing one, but don't see those edits in this copy ..... for example, I know I changed the "user created" description, added in a lot more detail on the fact that the "single-page access point" incorporates both the www.spamcop.met FAQ and the mail.spamcop.net FAQ .... the identification here of only one web-form for contact then runs into someone contacting the wrong folks for e-mail account issues .... noting that the link to the post that Miss Betsy has been complaining about is also included in this item, actually thinking that the recent "not finding answers" entry could replace both of these 'contact staff' listings ... On and on ... too many duplicate conversations going on in too many different places ...
dbiel Posted June 6, 2006 Author Posted June 6, 2006 Have to ask, is there another version of this floating around somewhere? This is the only copy of this topic but it does contain links to other topics. It was been located in different forums at different points in time; but this topic has always been a single topic, unlike some of the others that do appear in several forums as separate topics but the same subject. (ie the single announcement) On and on ... too many duplicate conversations going on in too many different places ...Getting where we need an index to keep track of where everything is.
Wazoo Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 This is the only copy of this topic but it does contain links to other topics. OK, figured it out ... I was thinking of the last Announcement thing I made ... Not finding the Help you need entry ... my confusion ... apologies ... though, in my mind, some of the thoughts are still valid ....
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