rcurzon Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 After a while, the official spam story rings a bit hollow ... more of a punch-and-judy show... behind which people must have real, other reasons for doing what they do. How come nobody asks some questions, like: 1- What really happens between the whitehats and blackhats. Where spam friends meet spam enemies, what happens? We do hear about dramatic cops and robbers aspects of spam. We do hear about the badboys and what they do, how they behave. Just like the cocaine kings or other gangsters. But, this bad-boy underground image of spam we constantly see is clearly false. spam is always visible, and controllable unlike most other crimes... yet, over time, it is not controlled. spam moves from spam-friendly systems like comcast etc, to spam-unfriendly systems, people on both sides of the divide can watch the flow anytime they like. People from one side must sit and talk with people from the other side constantly. They have to arrange the feeds, technology, upgrades, cost sharing... and more and more parameters must be agreed as technology get more sophisticated. This is not like cocaine deals in the dead of night that nobody can see. We can't be expected to believe the topic never comes up when yahoo sits and talks with comcast.... That yahoo is happy to be paying the costs while comcast makes the money. Is there a cost accomodation being made we don't hear about? 2- The game: why is it not always changing E.g. Spamcop has rules that spam IPs get blackholed for 24 hours, or whatever it is. Spammers soon automate their process around this: spew from an IP til it shows up on the BL, then sleep for 24 hours, then spew. It just points out, whatever the game is, it should change constantly. Isn't Ironport in effect being spam-friendly by being so easy to work against? If an IP is blacklisted every 23 hours, why isn't it blacklisted for a week after meeting a threshold, with further escalation after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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