doveditul Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hello, This is my first post so bare with me.... BTW. the confirmation email from spamcop got into my junk folder at hotmail ... just so u know .. and i have the default spam filter running... wich brings me to my problem. A while ago i got my own email server. I've been working on a social networking site for over 2 years .. all by myself.. yeah a lot of time... Now i am on the finish line .. and i am stuck at email sending.. for account confirmation upon signup. All my emails get successfully in inbox on yahoo and AOL, the problem is Hotmail and Gmail. on hotmail, although i have published spf records a while ago, all my emails do not have the X-SID-Result: Pass / Fail/ or..any .. nothing.. Now what is the matter with Hotmail ? i sent an innocent text message like "hi there" , "how are you " ... And it got into my junk folder. There must be something i am missing ... cause... i am blown away ... If someone knows or has experience with this issue please let me know. I will provide headers upon request. Thank you BTW. my ip, or domain is not on any spam lists.. so is clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenUnderwood Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 BTW. my ip, or domain is not on any spam lists.. so is clean. What IP address are we talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Betsy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 If you are running your own server, there is a Domain Delivery Team (or some such) at hotmail to help you. http://postmaster.hotmail.com/Troubleshooting.aspx I have no idea how helpful they are, but when a newsletter I get was having trouble getting to hotmail (in spite of being whitelisted), that's where they referred me (or rather the sender of the newsletter). Miss Betsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telarin Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Posting the headers of one of the messages in question would also help us in troubleshooting potential issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveditul Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Posting the headers of one of the messages in question would also help us in troubleshooting potential issues. X-Message-Status: n:0 X-SID-PRA: Zone Personals<PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]zonepersonals.com> X-Message-Info: txF49lGdW41KgT7GP9FPKGuf+hs5tYUldFZkYyUW1crlTs4hMPSlO431UKP7IBfs Received: from mail.zonepersonals.com ([69.64.67.189]) by bay0-mc6-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:52:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zonepersonals.com; s=default; h=Received:DomainKey-Signature:Received:date:return-path:to:from:reply-to:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=VgzlA15NHQ7t0rfyhBnQkgB6EQehufOsBhpoJiYikzqSQEhL4TYJjO5S60dpVfVin8Tw+7mJ5RCFjRi+KM2zAfzIccFrYOJIwC42CDB0C/0rNC/zvImxAuDB7r07Rfiy Received: (qmail 3089 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2007 15:52:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=zonepersonals.com; b=fWIxd4NttrB5vuMWDtg9fNk/TeztesI+Tg61EJ8rfyrrqB/ccFG6A5QTdh6LMUEZZmLk7OfrVjyBsg9mHtbnCNOG0u6Rf71fXU6hOVKd8IVKIl42Yqm+ZWSENyzX03QW ; Received: from mta2.zonepersonals.com (PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]208.101.16.166) by mail.zonepersonals.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2007 15:52:02 -0000 date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:52:15 -0500 return-path: PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]zonepersonals.com to: alexa_PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]hotmail.com from: Zone Personals Admin <PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]zonepersonals.com> reply-to: ZonePersonals Admin <PRIVATE_ANTI_SPAM[at]zonepersonals.com> subject: Zone Personals invitation mime-version: 1.0 content-transfer-encoding: 8bit content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-ID: <BAY0-MC6-F2qDYa9oX400009232[at]bay0-mc6-f2.bay0.hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2007 15:52:16.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[D261E2B0:01C7A91B] Hi Alexa how is it going ? </ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Can't see anything to necessarily cause a problem there. Looking at the domain with dnsreport you've done a beautiful job of setting it all up. As you say, no sign of a listing anywhere on your sending IP address. There is some sort of a spam listing which includes mta2.zonepersonals.com [208.101.16.166] ( APEWS.ORG Databasetest) but I don't see how that could affect your message sending - unless hotmail "drills down" through the whole message train. That would be unnecessary/excessive in my view, but what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveditul Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Can't see anything to necessarily cause a problem there. Looking at the domain with dnsreport you've done a beautiful job of setting it all up. As you say, no sign of a listing anywhere on your sending IP address. There is some sort of a spam listing which includes mta2.zonepersonals.com [208.101.16.166] ( APEWS.ORG Databasetest) but I don't see how that could affect your message sending - unless hotmail "drills down" through the whole message train. That would be unnecessary/excessive in my view, but what do I know? Thank you, I did my best.. well one thing i can tell you.. I've never sent spam .. in my life .... maybe the prev owner of the ip i have on my server did .. anyone can tell me Why on hotmail i don't see the SID-Result: ??? although i have published the spf ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 ...well one thing i can tell you.. I've never sent spam .. in my life .... maybe the prev owner of the ip i have on my server did ..Sorry to but in again but that APEWS is "next to SPEWS", works the same way, keeps "escalating" issues by increasing the blocking range. Listing there currently covers 208.101.0.0/18 so the listing is absolutely no evidence that your specific IP address is spamming or ever has spammed. If hotmail is using that or something like it then they are delinquent in their responsibility to the 'netizenary' of the world. I don't know if they are, but from the experience you report they're doing something. Repeating your request so as to "keep it on top" ...anyone can tell me Why on hotmail i don't see the SID-Result: ??? although i have published the spf ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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