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Hello, i saw there was another discussion about laposte.net, but my english is very poor and i did not understand the topic.

So i ask a very simple question : how can i send mail to my friend since spamcop have blocked laposte.net ???

I received this message :

De : Service de distribution du courrier <postmaster[at]laposte.net>

Date : Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:16:40 +0200

À : <XXX[at]laposte.net>

Objet : Notification d'état de la distribution

- Ces destinataires ont été traités par le serveur de messagerie :

XXX[at]numericable.fr; Échec; 5.3.0 (état du système de messagerie différent ou non défini)

ATM à distance mta.numericable.fr : erreur du réseau

- Diagnostic SMTP : 553 sorry, your mailserver is rejected by see http://spamcop.net

that clearly explain spamcop is responsable for the rejecting of my mail.

Am i wrong ?

Please, reply with SIMPLE english, not with technic words.

Or if you can reply in french, it would be wonderful !

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Your English is FAR better than my French... In fact, better than many people I know that speak only English...

Spamcop does not block email.

Spamcop provides a list of servers that send spam.

Your friends ISP is blocking your email because your mailserver is listed by spamcop.

Ask your ISP to quit letting their users send spam.

I am assuming your outgoing mailserver is smtp1.laposte.net (81.255.54.11).

You can find the details as to WHY the server is listed here:

http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblo...tp1.laposte.net

Reports were sent to abuse[at]oleane.net, but appear to have been ignored.

Edited by Telarin

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n fact, better than many people I know that speak only English...

Oh ! Did you live somewhere in the far far ireland ? :P

Spamcop does not block email

Yes, i had understand that it was not DIRECTLY spamcop that blokes the mails, but that it send a black-list to ISP that ask for it.

But in fact, when spamcop blasklisted a server, ISPs believe it and apply it. SO result : they block black-listed servers.

You cannot know about it if you are not living in france, but laposte.net is a VERY BIG mail server in france, one of the most popular free mail provider.

"La poste" is the historical post company and laposte.net one of the only serious free server that offers the SMTP outgoing.

So put laposte.net on black-list is not just a joke, thousands and thousand of users will be blocked.

What can it be doing to get laposte.net out of the spamcop black-list ?

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laposte.net has too many spammers and trojaned/hijacked machines. They need to have better administration over their network. It does not matter how big or small they are. They must stop the spam.

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Que Merlyn dit est très simple, Lapost doit s'arrêter les spam vomissent de leurs utilisateurs!

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So i ask a very simple question : how can i send mail to my friend since spamcop have blocked laposte.net ???

Or if you can reply in french, it would be wonderful !

To answer only the question quoted above.

You can send mail by some other route than by using the mailservers that laposte provide.

A free account with Yahoo or Gmail or Hotmail is easy to acquire and you need only use it when laposte fails you.

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What's wrong with laposte.net ?

41761[/snapback]

They're irresponsible in managing their email services.

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Report History for smtp1.laposte.net (81.255.54.11) for just the past ten days follows:

Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 20:08:15 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708838549 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708838547 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 20:04:42 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708832102 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708832101 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 17:41:17 -0400:

EMPLOYMENT OFFER

1708718909 ( http:// www.globalseafoods.co.kr/index.html ) To: abuse[at]kornet.net

1708718903 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708718895 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1708718890 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 17:39:40 -0400:

EMPLOYMENT OFFER

1708717694 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708717693 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1708717692 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 17:38:24 -0400:

EMPLOYMENT OFFER

1708717236 ( http:// www.globalseafoods.co.kr/index.html ) To: abuse[at]kornet.net

1708717232 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708717230 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1708717228 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 17:35:32 -0400:

=?iso-8859-1?b?TE9PS0lORyBGT1IgR09MRCBEVVNUIEJVWUVSIEFORCBJTlZFU1RN?= =?iso-8...

1708714593 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708714589 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1708714588 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 17:34:41 -0400:

ENQUIRY

1708714117 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708714116 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1708714115 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 15:27:07 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708635950 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 15:26:45 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708620067 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 15:26:28 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708622877 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/04/03 07:56:28 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1708209394 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1708209392 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 17:32:33 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707677320 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:06:37 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707591494 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:06:33 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707591874 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:05:16 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707594230 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:04:28 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707592979 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:04:16 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707594405 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:04:12 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707591909 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 15:03:08 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707586936 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/04/02 08:38:29 -0400:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1707298675 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/04/01 14:30:40 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1706689255 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/04/01 14:30:32 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1706686963 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/31 12:41:37 -0500:

ENQUIRY

1705795642 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

1705795632 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/31 10:32:25 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1705670790 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1705670784 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/31 08:51:47 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1705592388 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 23:30:14 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1705246130 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 11:44:15 -0500:

Work with us.

1704815411 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 11:37:20 -0500:

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Read_carefully_and_get_back_to_me?=

1704812268 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 05:33:28 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1704527486 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 02:35:19 -0500:

*** spam *** CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE WON!!!

1704418802 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704418795 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 01:22:50 -0500:

=?iso-8859-1?b?RXVyb21pbGxpb24gTG90ZXJpYSBFc3Bh8W9sIEFXQVJEIA==?= =?iso-8859-...

1704379159 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Thursday 2006/03/30 00:58:21 -0500:

LOTERIJ WINNING NOTIFICATION

1704756176 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704756174 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1704756169 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 20:18:10 -0500:

*** spam *** CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE WON!!!

1704224210 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 20:16:24 -0500:

COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE REQUIRED

1704220863 ( http:// www.jogmec.go.jp/english/technology.html ) To: ota-kuniyoshi[at]jogmec.go.jp

1704220862 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704220861 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1704220860 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 19:25:23 -0500:

GOD'S WILLINGNESS

1704194235 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 18:26:42 -0500:

PERSONAL REGARDS(PROJECT MAIL)

1704162628 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704162627 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 14:20:28 -0500:

WE WANT YOU TO BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE

1704020454 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704020451 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 13:04:16 -0500:

COMPANY'S REPRESENTATIVE WITH AN ATTRACTIVE COMMISSION!!!

1703965736 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 11:02:21 -0500:

Company Representative Needed !

1703874234 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 10:39:16 -0500:

COLLECTION AGENT NEEDED

1703851798 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1703851796 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1703851795 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 10:33:31 -0500:

GOD'S WILLINGNESS

1703846790 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

1703846789 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 06:16:11 -0500:

SEARCHING FOR REPRESENTATIVES

1703687080 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

1703687079 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 05:18:10 -0500:

"ONLINE FREE LOTTO WINNER" Your email address won......

1704088818 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704088803 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 21:25:18 -0500:

[spam:70%] INQUIRY REPRESENTATIVE NEEDED

1704095307 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1704095306 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 03:29:18 -0500:

INQUIRY REPRESENTATIVE NEEDED

1703557997 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Wednesday 2006/03/29 03:16:15 -0500:

INQUIRY REPRESENTATIVE NEEDED

1703571053 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

1703571052 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 22:17:35 -0500:

PROPOSITION

1703379780 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 17:43:32 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1703227448 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 17:15:47 -0500:

Good day to you.

1703204998 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 17:15:45 -0500:

1703205041 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 09:43:50 -0500:

{High spam?} CONGRATULATIONS!!!

1702877065 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1702877064 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1702877063 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Tuesday 2006/03/28 09:16:41 -0500:

AWARD WINNING NOTIFICATION

1702859978 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1702859977 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1702859970 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/03/27 21:42:49 -0500:

AWARD WINNING NOTIFICATION **spam**

1702418330 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1702418325 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1702418323 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/03/27 18:18:50 -0500:

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Get_back_to_me_soon?=

1702299917 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1702299906 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/03/27 16:01:04 -0500:

*** spam *** RE: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

1702210914 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1702210913 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1702210909 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Monday 2006/03/27 09:01:55 -0500:

Congratulations Winner!!!

1701898042 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1701898041 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1701898040 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 22:41:20 -0500:

PRIZE WINNING NOTIFICATION!!!

1701421468 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1701421467 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 21:42:20 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1701389165 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 21:42:23 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1701388549 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 14:29:21 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1701136525 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 12:04:20 -0500:

DRAW RESULT CONFIRMATION FOR REF. NUMBER MCS/231OXI/06.

1701028253 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: mole[at]devnull.spamcop.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 10:51:18 -0500:

ATTENTION: YOU ARE A WINNER

1700987068 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1700987067 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1700987065 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Sunday 2006/03/26 06:49:10 -0500:

COMPANY AGENT REQUIRED!

1700812503 ( http:// www.itochu.co.jp ) To: m-yasuda[at]crc.co.jp

1700812502 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1700812501 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1700812500 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 23:48:19 -0500:

DRAW RESULT CONFIRMATION FOR REF. NUMBER MCS/231OXI/06.

1700581441 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1700581439 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 23:47:41 -0500:

DRAW RESULT CONFIRMATION FOR REF. NUMBER MCS/231OXI/06.

1700581232 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1700581228 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 14:09:30 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1700239872 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 12:57:58 -0500:

Re: 2: Get your medircations ONLINE! [Ref:882]

1700183611 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 12:40:29 -0500:

=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Notification_d'=E9tat_de_la_distribution?=

1700172551 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 02:46:41 -0500:

Honda Promotions Information Service (Congratulations!!!)

1699813281 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699813275 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1699813269 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 02:41:58 -0500:

=?iso-8859-1?Q?READ_WELL_AND_GET_BACK_TO_ME_NOW?=

1699758156 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699758149 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Saturday 2006/03/25 02:23:03 -0500:

COMPANY REPRESENTETIVE REQUEST(EARN TEN%COMMISSION)

1699735136 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699735135 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1699735132 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 21:56:19 -0500:

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Read_Well_And_Get_Back_To_Me_Now?=

1699594434 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 18:35:08 -0500:

[spam] *** spam *** PLEASE RESPOND

1699538581 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699538580 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1699538578 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 15:59:40 -0500:

PC con 2 CPUs al Precio de 1, Solo en Newtek !!! Llegaron Grabadoras de DVD

1699399201 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699399200 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: [concealed user-defined recipient]

1699399198 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 14:47:50 -0500:

Representative Needed!!!

1699351154 ( http:// www.cmiec.com/ ) To: zhouzf[at]midwest.com.cn

1699351153 ( http:// www.cmiec.com ) To: zhouzf[at]midwest.com.cn

1699351149 ( http:// www.cmiec.com/ ) To: jz[at]midwest.com.cn

1699351148 ( http:// www.cmiec.com ) To: jz[at]midwest.com.cn

1699351147 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699351146 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1699351143 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 14:25:06 -0500:

I crave your indulgence

1699334953 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

1699334951 ( http:// www.laposte.net ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

1699334950 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: abuse[at]oleane.net

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Submitted: Friday 2006/03/24 12:40:35 -0500:

From Fidelity Investment UK

1699263204 ( 81.255.54.11 ) To: spamcop[at]imaphost.com

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To answer only the question quoted above.

You can send mail by some other route than by using the mailservers that laposte provide.

A free account with Yahoo or Gmail or Hotmail is easy to acquire and you need only use it when laposte fails you.

Did one of them offers SMTP outgoing ? When i have look ed for free mail accounts with SMTP outgoing, in the past years, hotmail was not, and all the others i visited was not, only laposte was offering this service.

Well, i will search another free account server that offers SMTP outgoing, starting by the ones you tell me, when i will have to send mail to this friend.

Thanks.

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Did one of them offers SMTP outgoing ? When i have look ed for free mail accounts with SMTP outgoing, in the past years, hotmail was not, and all the others i visited was not, only laposte was offering this service.

Well, i will search another free account server that offers SMTP outgoing, starting by the ones you tell me, when i will have to send mail to this friend.

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We have a saying in English 'You get what you pay for' is there an equivalent in French? If something costs nothing and then goes wrong, you have no grounds for complaint! If you pay for a service then you can expect someone to fix the problem.

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We have a saying in English 'You get what you pay for' is there an equivalent in French? If something costs nothing and then goes wrong, you have no grounds for complaint! If you pay for a service then you can expect someone to fix the problem.

Yes, everything have a cost i agrre with that.

But i cannot let you say that when something is distributed for free that mean we do not pay for it, "it costs nothing" as you say.

Because when a free service is distributed with ad, we pay ! I.E., if coca cola put ad on the laposte.net website, coca cola pays laposte.net for this, and it is not the shareholder that pay the costs but the consumer ! So in a way, you pay the service.

But worth ! Imagine now a free newspaper : you pay for the ad in it, but you also pay for the cleaning in the street of all the millions of newspapers have been throwed away, because it is a "kleenex" consuming way.

So nothing is really free in the industrials goods and services.

So, conclusion, it is coca-cola to complain to laposte.net when it services goes wrong !!! Maybe ?

And it could be a very long debate when you say "If you pay for a service then you can expect someone to fix the problem." if we compare that honnest postulate and the hard reality !!! The complains about big companies (ISP or Mobile telephone operators, I.E.) and their high-cost support are the daily of consumers-defense associations !

At the end, i have no solutions. I am betrayed again by the system.

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Yahoo! France is probably your best bet for free SMTP, but beware that they probably append ads and have limits like Yahoo! UK and their servers are sometimes also listed by the SCBL.

See also Jeff G.'s Hotspot SMTP-Auth Provider Status Report.

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