A simple request

[tooangry]

I have asked this question several times (on teh newsgroup), but I will try one last time.

I have been repeatedly told that my choices as someone who is being cut off

because spamcop lists the IP address from which my ISP sends my emails are

to:

1. Petition the ISP (a multi-billion dollar company, that will take no

interest in me)

2. Organise a mass petition of the ISP (yes, of course, I have months of

space time)

3. Petition the government (thanks a bundle for that one)

4. Change my ISP to one that isn't spam friendly.

If I choose the last I have to find such an ISP. So far posters have

recemmended one in the USA (I'm in Hong Kong), and spamcop's own service (if

I were cynical...).

All I want to know, though, is how to check whether an ISP is, or is not,

spam-friendly. The only answer I had to that was to try outfits such as

Spamhaus - but Spamhaus does not list ISPs - just IP addresses, and I have

no way of knowing what IP address an ISP might be using for my e-mails if I

were to sign up with them.

So, for the last time, please, please, can anyone tell me how, if I decide

to use an ISP such as City Telecom, whether it is spam-friendly or not. This

should be a simple request.

Many thanks

[Wazoo]

I have asked this question several times (on teh newsgroup), but I will try one last time.

I have been repeatedly told that my choices as someone who is being cut off

because spamcop lists the IP address from which my ISP sends my emails are

to:

1. Petition the ISP (a multi-billion dollar company, that will take no

interest in me)

2. Organise a mass petition of the ISP (yes, of course, I have months of

space time)

3. Petition the government (thanks a bundle for that one)

4. Change my ISP to one that isn't spam friendly.

You've left off a couple of other suggestions. HotMail, Yahoo, and the multitudes of other 'free' e-mail services.

If I choose the last I have to find such an ISP. So far posters have

recemmended one in the USA (I'm in Hong Kong), and spamcop's own service (if

I were cynical...).

All I want to know, though, is how to check whether an ISP is, or is not,

spam-friendly. The only answer I had to that was to try outfits such as

Spamhaus - but Spamhaus does not list ISPs - just IP addresses, and I have

no way of knowing what IP address an ISP might be using for my e-mails if I

were to sign up with them.

So, for the last time, please, please, can anyone tell me how, if I decide

to use an ISP such as City Telecom, whether it is spam-friendly or not. This

should be a simple request.

Many thanks

Maybe you think it should be simple, but it's not something that most folks would like to spend their time doing for you. For example, one would assume that if the dial-up number was a place local to you, then why not simply give that office a call and ask what IP's their mail server(s) sit at. Not only could you then check the places already suggested to see if they are listed, but you'd also get a feel for the support offered by that ISP.

Get yourself over to Google, do a search in the net-abuse newsgroups for the ISP and/or IP addresses in question. See if they exist in Sightings or are being discussed in NANAE, for instance.

Point is that if you don't want to help yourself (based on your introductory comments in this post), you're not setting yourself up for much help here either ... that you found all the help offered thus far as essentially useless, well ..... I'm going to stop typing right about here.

Here's hoping you get some value out of this small list of suggestions.

[Jeff G.]

I think you may be writing about "City Telecom (H.K.) Ltd." AKA ctihk.com.

Please see http://www.google.com/groups?as_epq=City%2..._ugroup=*abuse* and http://www.google.com/groups?as_epq=ctihk...._ugroup=*abuse* for details.

[jefft]

I'm sorry I don't have any real answers for you. I think the problem is that most of the users here are from the U.S. and Europe. I imagine we have very few Hong Kong users and, so, we have very little experience with Hong-Kong-based ISP's.

You could probably post the same question in the news.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup. It has a much wider reach and, therefore, you might get a good answer from someone.

You might also look into other services that will let you use their SMTP server. I think Fastmail will, for a small yearly fee. That would certainly be easier than changing your ISP.

I hope you understand that there's nothing against you personally. It's just the case that if spam is coming out of the same mailserver you use, we have to protect ourselves from that mailserver.

JT

[rgvodden]

Here's a thought:

- Email the ISP in question

- View the header of the email you receive in response.

- note the IP address in the email header (or do a NSLookup on the server)

- Search for that IP address on www.spamcop.net

In theory, it should work.