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Starting sometime yesterday I started receiving some blank spamcop emails. I am not sure if they are coming from the reporting system after I submit emails to my reporting address or if they are reports coming from the reports generated by "reporting immediately and trashing" my held mail.

I have trashed them all so far, will add to the post when and if I get the next one.

I am receiving both my reports and my "SpamCop has accepted 1 email for processing" emails, so this can be either of those occurring on occasion and not all the time.

The emails are coming in with a blank subject and an empty body. There is a "recipient list not shown" in the CC or BC field.

I will post the address it is coming from when and If I get the next one.

Thanks

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You're talking about e-mail, and alleging that it happens after an e-mail SpamCop submittal, so it looks like you picked the correct Forum to make the question.

But we're all still waiting for the "additional posting" so "we" can see the headers of these blank mails. You might also want to offer up what software is in the mix. Whether you're using a POP or IMAP serve ... things like that which might also be involved.

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Have submitted many emails today and so far, the issue has yet to show itself again. May be a resolved issue at this point, but I will keep an eye out for it.

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That's some sort of corollary to Murphy's Law: If things are going wrong intermittently, they won't go wrong while you're watching. :)

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Got one!!!!

Ok, I use Outlook and the spamsource tool to extract and submit the email. When I used the tool to extract the info to the clipboard, it gave me an error saying it was unable to get the text from the body. Of course!!! There is none. In fact, it didnt even process it at all.

Here is what I get...

From

spamcop-net[at]blade1.cesmail.net

Nothing in the To: field

CC:

recipient list not shown:

No body

Nothing, it is all blank. Even in the spamsource clippings.

If I drag the msg to my desktop and open in a text editor, it is messy, very messy. Do you want that? Here is the only part of it I can actually read.

(InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP

id <20040219084430.OJIX25278.fed1mtai07.cox.net[at]c60.cesmail.net>

for <*****[at]cox.net>; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:44:30 -0500

Received: from unknown (HELO blade1.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.211)

by c60.cesmail.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 03:44:32 -0500

Received: (qmail 7791 invoked by uid 1010); 19 Feb 2004 08:44:32 -0000

From: spamcop-net[at]blade1.cesmail.net

Cc: recipient list not shown: ;

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-****[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 7745 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2004 08:44:31 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO c60.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.105)

by blade1.cesmail.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 08:44:31 -0000

Received: from mailgate.cesmail.net (216.154.195.36)

by c60.cesmail.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 03:44:30 -0500

Received: (qmail 22106 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2004 08:44:30 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101)

by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 08:44:30 -0000

Received: from pop.west.cox.net [68.6.19.2]

by mailgate.cesmail.net with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.1)

for ****[at]spamcop.net (single-drop); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:44:30 -0500 (EST)

Received: from ppp-68-251-79-207.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net ([68.251.79.207])

by fed1mtai03.cox.net

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id <20040219084248.PYBM21705.fed1mtai03.cox.net[at]ppp-68-251-79-207.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net>;

Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:42:48 -0500

Received: from 148.60.191.56 by 68.251.79.207; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:35:35 -0100

Message-ID: <I[20

Message-Id: <20040219084248.PYBM21705.fed1mtai03.cox.net[at]ppp-68-251-79-207.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net>

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 03:42:48 -0500

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on blade1

X-spam-Level: *

X-spam-Status: hits=1.9 tests=FROM_NO_LOWER version=2.63

X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.105 216.154.195.36 192.168.1.101 68.6.19.2 68.251.79.207 5.1.6.5 148.60.191.56 68.251.79.207

Sorry, had to munge it, do not want my email, spamcop or other, here. the **** is the change I made by removing my user ID of the email address.

Thanks

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I know you're sitting there, thinking that you offered everything possible (you said "all you could read") .. but in addition to the "no body", there's some data missing in what you snagged / posted ... One line in particular would have started with: Content-Type: .... I scrolled up and down your post several times, but I just don't see it.

The parser did take it down to "68.251.79.207 is an open proxy" and even offered the complaint addresses of abuse[at]sbcglobal.net and abuse[at]ameritech.net, but had a real complaint about wanting a full / complete copy of the message.

So is it possible that you have stopped copying just a bit shy of the whole header ... or, going back to your "all I can read", are we looking at something that just got overwhelmed trying to "read" it and that's when the garbage stuff showed up on your screen?

Edited by Wazoo

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ok, here is the whole thing...

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And why is it that it is coming from spamcop like this, empty body and subject. It looks like nothing when I look at it with the client.

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And why is it that it is coming from spamcop like this, empty body and subject. It looks like nothing when I look at it with the client.

ack! no wonder you want to hurt me <g>

First of all, there's discussion going on over in the newsgroups, referencing "blank e-mails" .. but what's curious, the "short message-id" had just come up .. and this issue matches both of your samples. But none of those parties mentioned the big blocks of non-readable characters .. strange ....

Then notice that in addition to the missing "Character-Type:" , there's no line seen that suggests just what character set is behind all the garbage. I think I'll drop a note over there and ask the woman that was really trying to get to the bottom of this to come over and compare yours ... might not work, as she has a real hatred of the web-based thing ...

Hmmm, re-reading that series of posts, there's also mention of "cut-off" headers, which might explain the missing lines I've been looking for ....

If it's any help, you're not the only one receiving these and also having serious issues in reporting them ...???

What I want to know, is this a response from the server telling me that it has accepted 1 email for reporting, or is this one report from me submitting from my held mail box.

I'm not too proud to admit that I can't quite figure that one out either ... that the first "clear" text thing is a Reply To: addres, I'm leaning towards that it's a copy of the incoming e-mail ... but I'd say I'm as confused as you on this one right now ..

Edited by Wazoo

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I am happy that my posts are going to be something that might help us narrow this issue down.

Thanks for the help so far.

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gads, I wish I felt like I was helping .... there's folks that I much respect for their knowledge and skills that are wrangling through this as we speak .... and a few of those parties have the (apparently) same spam, so they're seeing the actual source, somehting I'm not too trusting of in this web-based thing ... I know copying the data from your last off the screen won't give me the real character set behind the garbage data, but I'm not sure of trying to defeat JT's switch on the viewing of the souce code on these pages will result in getting the "real" data either ...

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Tell me how you want me to get the email to you... fwd it to your spamcop account? or another account? It makes no difference to me.

I can push it up to my host for my domain and you can download it from a url if you wish. Not sure how your client will act downloading a .msg from a url.

Let me know

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Starting back at the top ... I'm wondering about more stuff .. I see that you have mentioned your "Held Mail" ... and noting that this is the E-Mail Forum .. Do you still have any of these in your Held Mail folder on the SpamCop server? I think what I'd ask would be for a Forward of one of those ... I'm wanting to rule out the handling of it by Outlook and get much closer to the source.

But before even going that far, let me point out .. I'm just a longtime user of the SpamCop tool, no powers, no authority, etc ... so there'd be a question as to whether you'd want to allow me to see / have your un-munged details ... and that also even presumes that I'd find anything that would clear things up ...

Edited by Wazoo

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I visit, often, my held mail folder, scan it to make sure it didnt catch a non-spam email. If it did, I usually forward it and whitelist the sender if I expect more email from them, or just forward it. Then I select all and submit for quick reporting and move to trash.

So to answer your question, no, I would not have it here on spamcop.

Before I visit my held mail folder, I check my email here, and report any spam using the spamsource tool.

I have my own domain and use it at times to send email from myself to users I think might submit spam later. so my unmunged email, listed above is from that account. But, one is not, it is from my real email. But that email is the whole reason I have a spamcop account, it is the one filtered account I have. Spamcop get my email from there, scans it, filters it and sends my non-spam email to my private, no one knows, email account.

I could email it to you, I trust you that much. If I start receiving spam on my private account I will just create another one and use it, and filter the old private one. :)

Or as I said, I could zip the msg, and place it on my host, you can download it from there. I will leave it up to you.

It is nice having my own domain, can create as many accounts as I want. Plus, my real host (cox) allows up to 7 emails accounts. I use 5, mostly for my daughters.

Let me know.

Oh look, B) We made this a hot topic with all the posts.

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Here's hoping that you'll find a fix also ... copied over from the newsgroup ....

> I know you don't like the Forum side of things, but ... while you're

> researching your archives on these, might you slip over and look at

> the data provided by a user over there?

>

> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=340

I might, but I won't.

Anyway, I just came here to report that such blank messages are now

accepted by SpamCop for reporting:

One email in my autmatically submitted batch parsed normally (no "would

report to...) but I noticed the usual "Make sure this mail IS spam" was

missing; looking at the report details I found it was on of the empty

ones (truncated message-ID, single newline for a body).

That saves a lot of going back and copy-and-paste to report them anyway

:)

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I am receiving and increasing number of these blank emails today. My guess is it is coming to me from the "SpamCop has accepted 1 email for processing" mail, from one I have submitted using the spamsource tool.

I have tried submitting one of these to track it down, but it always fails with "SpamCop encountered errors".

I am saving the ones that come to me blank.

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I am receiving and increasing number of these blank emails today.  My guess is it is coming to me from the "SpamCop has accepted 1 email for processing" mail, from one I have submitted using the spamsource tool.

I have tried submitting one of these to track it down, but it always fails with "SpamCop encountered errors".

I am saving the ones that come to me blank.

Dhanna,

I, too, get a lot of blank emails. Looking at the headers, they don't come from SpamCop, they come from some random open proxy somewhere.

It sounds crazy, but I believe that there are spammers with broken software that sends blank emails, at least part of the time. Or they start it up and forget to paste in the spam or something like that. Or it's a broken virus that is sending blank copies.

I just looked in my held mail and immediately found a blank message. Here's the whole thing:

Return-Path: <luwzy[at]freedownloadsreport.biz>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-jefft[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 23545 invoked by uid 1009); 20 Feb 2004 20:59:51 -0000

Delivered-To: cesmail-net-service[at]cesmail.net

Received: (qmail 23522 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2004 20:59:50 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101)

by blade4.cesmail.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2004 20:59:50 -0000

Received: (qmail 11238 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2004 20:59:50 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO BNSF) (65.39.100.81)

by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2004 20:59:49 -0000

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on blade4

X-spam-Level: **

X-spam-Status: hits=2.9 tests=DATE_MISSING,FROM_NO_LOWER version=2.63

X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 65.39.100.81

X-SpamCop-Disposition: Blocked bl.spamcop.net

So, it got sent with an obviously spammy Return-Path and directly from some computer that's on the bl. But there's no To:, no From:, no Subject: and no message. But this is exactly the way we received it.

So, this spammer just has their spam sending software screwed up and is sending blank spams. I used to delete these, but now I report them.

JT

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JT, I'd sent dhanna an invite to send me one, but not sure if she's caught the PM thing or not ... noting that her last said she was "saving" them, maybe you could peek and see if what she's getting match your example? Her other samples look like they might have fallen under the description (as discussed over in the newsgroups) of having a header that looked like it was cut off ....

Edited by Wazoo

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:huh:

Hey Wazoo, sorry to disappoint you, but I am a guy. :)

Anyway, I did get your PM message but have not had time to reply. Been a crazy couple of days. I have 4 daughters and this happens to be my week with all of them. In addition I have a friend in from out of town, with two of her own kids, that I am trying to spend some time with. This will make for slow reponses this weekend.

The one problem is, these emails are not being held in my "Held Mail" folder. They are getting sent to me from spamcop to my inbox. I use outlook and spamsource to report them, but when I try and report them I receive an error from spamsource saying it can't process it.

I can change my prefs and have spamcop hold all my mail, but just have not hd the time. I did try and paste the header into the reporting system and for some reason, it too, would not process.

I will work on this later tonight and see what I can do to get a couple of reports. Also, I can save these to my HD and zip them if Jefft and wazoo want to download them. I trust you two. I can put them in a zip and post them on my domain host.

Thanks

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Jeeze, I just fininished a long e-mail to one of my clients, issues with the devlopment of her web page ... I'd just made the comments that I tried not to "assume" anything, just going with words as typed .. and bang you caught with an assumption running full force .. apologies .. not even sure where/when I made that conclusion .. you'll note my use of "user" in the other posts, and usually a him/her thing elsewhere ... just trying to get the note to JT quickly, guess I just was typing too quickly ... again, apologies ..

it's the Outlook handling that I'm wanting to avoid, as its output isn't the actual spam in most cases, just the way it works / was designed.

If you're willing to do the work, how about firing up an Outlook Express e-mail account, check the "leave on server" box ... make an e-mail run first with OE, see if any of those are of the "blank message" type that are causing you grief ... if one is found, forward that one as an attachment ... if not, then drop back to your regular Outlook account / app and handle as normal ??? (several ways to try this actually, but just tossed this one out as a first thought.)

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Interesting topic

I also am getting blank e-mails

I have pasted the entire message (header) below with my email user name changed to *********. hoping that this may provided additional information in the hunt for a source.

Return-Path: <fgpqmx[at]hotmail.com>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-**********[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 22338 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101)

by blade1.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

Received: (qmail 3115 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

Received: from blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.121.90)

by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

Received: from tanager-120.pocket ([10.4.120.253] helo=tanager)

by blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1)

id 1AugWD-0003fG-00

for *********[at]spamcop.net; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:45 -0800

X-MindSpring-Loop: ********[at]earthlink.net

Received: from p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de ([213.54.241.124])

by tanager (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1aUGwa4GP3NZFmQ0

Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

Received: from 56.88.24.48 by 213.54.241.124; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:26:37 -0500

Message-ID: <V[20

From: <fgpqmx[at]hotmail.com>

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

Bcc:

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on blade1

X-spam-Level: **

X-spam-Status: hits=2.1 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.63

X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 207.217.121.90 10.4.120.253 213.54.241.124 56.88.24.48 213.54.241.124

Interesting to note the holder of the first recieved from IP

Result for 56.88.24.48

OrgName: U.S. Postal Service

OrgID: UPS-1

Address: 4200 Wake Forest Road

City: Raleigh

StateProv: NC

PostalCode: 27668-7800

Country: US

NetRange: 56.0.0.0 - 56.255.255.255

CIDR: 56.0.0.0/8

NetName: USPS1

NetHandle: NET-56-0-0-0-1

Parent:

NetType: Direct Assignment

NameServer: DNS082.USPS.COM

NameServer: DNS141.USPS.COM

Comment:

Also attached is the following response from the spamcop report

SpamCop version 1.3.4 © SpamCop.net, Inc. 1998-2004 All Rights Reserved

Retrieved email:

This page may be saved for future reference:

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z305412984z5e...3744ec75fd4d5bz

Return-Path: <fgpqmx[at]hotmail.com>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-x

Received: (qmail 22338 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101)

by blade1.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

Received: (qmail 3115 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

Received: from blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.121.90)

by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

Received: from tanager-120.pocket ([10.4.120.253] helo=tanager)

by blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1)

id 1AugWD-0003fG-00

for x; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:45 -0800

X-MindSpring-Loop: x

Received: from p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de ([213.54.241.124])

by tanager (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1aUGwa4GP3NZFmQ0

Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

Received: from 56.88.24.48 by 213.54.241.124; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:26:37 -0500

Message-ID: <V[20

From: <fgpqmx[at]hotmail.com>

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

Bcc:

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on blade1

X-spam-Level: **

X-spam-Status: hits=2.1 tests=INVALID_MSGID,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.63

X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 207.217.121.90 10.4.120.253 213.54.241.124 56.88.24.48 213.54.241.124

Skip to Reports

Parsing header:

Received: (qmail 22338 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

Ignored

Received: from unknown (HELO mailgate.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.101) by blade1.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:46 -0000

192.168.1.101 found

host 192.168.1.101 (getting name) no name

192.168.1.101 discarded

Received: (qmail 3115 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

Ignored

Received: from blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net (207.217.121.90) by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 23:26:45 -0000

207.217.121.90 found

host 207.217.121.90 = blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cached)

host blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net (checking ip) = 207.217.121.90

Possible spammer: 207.217.121.90

Received line accepted

Relay trusted (207.217.121.90 mail.pas.earthlink.net)

Received: from tanager-120.pocket ([10.4.120.253] helo=tanager) by blackbird.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AugWD-0003fG-00 for x; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:45 -0800

10.4.120.253 found

host 10.4.120.253 (getting name) no name

10.4.120.253 discarded

Received: from p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de ([213.54.241.124]) by tanager (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1aUGwa4GP3NZFmQ0 Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

Fixing bozotic earthlink received line:

Received: from p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de ([213.54.241.124]) by tanager.earthlink.net with SMTP id 1aUGwa4GP3NZFmQ0 Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:26:39 -0800 (PST)

213.54.241.124 found

host 213.54.241.124 (getting name) = p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de.

host p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de (checking ip) = 213.54.241.124

Possible spammer: 213.54.241.124

Possible relay: 207.217.121.90

207.217.121.90 not listed in relays.ordb.org.

207.217.121.90 has already been sent to relay testers

Received line accepted

Received: from 56.88.24.48 by 213.54.241.124; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 18:26:37 -0500

56.88.24.48 found

host 56.88.24.48 (getting name) no name

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org ( 127.0.0.3 )

213.54.241.124 not listed in cbl.abuseat.org

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net ( 127.0.0.10 )

213.54.241.124 is not an MX for tanager.earthlink.net

213.54.241.124 is not an MX for p213.54.241.124.tisdip.tiscali.de

213.54.241.124 is not an MX for tanager.earthlink.net

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org ( 127.0.0.3 )

213.54.241.124 is a dynamic IP, untrusted as relay

Tracking message source: 213.54.241.124:

Routing details for 213.54.241.124

[refresh/show] Cached whois for 213.54.241.124 : abuse[at]b2b.tiscali.com

Using abuse net on abuse[at]b2b.tiscali.com

abuse net b2b.tiscali.com = abuse[at]b2b.tiscali.com

Using best contacts abuse[at]b2b.tiscali.com

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org ( 127.0.0.3 )

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.njabl.org ( 127.0.0.3 )

213.54.241.124 not listed in cbl.abuseat.org

213.54.241.124 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net ( 127.0.0.10 )

213.54.241.124 not listed in relays.ordb.org.

213.54.241.124 not listed in plus.bondedsender.org

213.54.241.124 not listed in query.bondedsender.org

Report spam to:

Re: 213.54.241.124 (Administrator of network where email originates)

To: abuse[at]b2b.tiscali.com (Notes)

Re: 213.54.241.124 (Third party interested in email source)

To: Cyveillance spam collection (Notes)

I am a bit confused (maybe I just don't know enough) why Spamcop indicates source of mail as 213.54.241.124 instead of 56.88.24.48

Edited by dbiel

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Parse results are based on tracking the handoff from server to server ... the line you're looking at that references the USPS is bogus ... what's funny is that I'm receipt of an e-mail direct from the USPS NOC just yesterday ... I was bitching about their tracking, contact, and FAQ web pages requiring java scri_pt to see / get any results, then went on to bitch about the lack of contact data in the WHOIS, with a further bitch that out of three attempted guesses at a Postmaster address, I got three bounces ..... trust me, the line you're looking at is bogus ...

the 10.4.120.253 is an internal, non-routable address, but the server names before and after jive enough to be earthlink servers.

and the top ones are spamcop servers.

so this only leaves the one that is listed as the complaint target as the actual spam origination point,

The rest of the headers, I'll say pretty much seem to match JT's description ... broken message-id string, no Subject line, no Context-Type: line, etc., etc. So in this case, second JT's suggested broken software syndrome in your example ...

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Wazoo

I have a little app that is called ePrompter. It checks to see if I have mail on the server. It tells me when I have email.

Two things i will do, I will disable the forwarding of my mail to my private account and I will watch my ePromter, unfiltered account for the blank ones. When and if I get a couple, I will clear all the others and leave those in there. Once they are on the spamcop server, tell me what you want me to do with them.

Thanks

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