JohnathanRGalt Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Have Spammers found a way to fool Spamcop? This report shows SpamCop is unable to resolve the Spamvertized website: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z702777478z41...a1b2b218ba1e1cz The website in question is selling pirate software: http://www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com SpamCop is convinced that the address is: 222.51.91.248 I have no problem tracing it to some corrupt official in the People's Republic of China trying to make an extra buck -- but at an IP address that appears to change every few minutes. If you try to resolve the website, the IP address seems to be shifting around (usually to Chinese addresses). I just pinged it again ago and got Whois Information from "whois.apnic.net" about 221.11.133.68 descr: China Network Communications Group Corporation descr: No.156,Fu-Xing-Men-Nei Street, descr: Beijing 100031 role: CNCGroup Hostmaster e-mail: abuse[at]cnc-noc.net A few minutes earlier I traced it to: Whois Information from "whois.apnic.net" about 222.223.134.40 descr: CHINANET hebei province network descr: China Telecom descr: No.31,jingrong street descr: Beijing 100032 e-mail: anti-spam[at]ns.chinanet.cn.net person: Bin Ren e-mail: renbin[at]mail.he.cn address: 10F Ximei Building NO.6 Jianshe South Street address: Shijiazhuang 050011 China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazoo Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 First of all, I edited the Topic Title. The "have spammers figured out how to fool SpamCop" is to often repeated on details such as the case you've offered here. Rotating DNS and IP addresses has been going on for years. If you want to call this "fooling SpamCop" .. then you should also add in the countless numbers of idiot spam recipients that also wonder why the URL comes up as a 404 when they click on it .... The normal methodolgy suggested, if you care to persue it, is to go after the DNS providers and see if that can be knocked out. The Registrar YESNIC has been quite heavily discussed of late, but apparently are making noises like they are trying to handle some of the spew issues .. repeat, making noises, not sure of the actual results at this point ... whois -h whois.yesnic.com magnitudeofborrowing.com ... Domain Name : magnitudeofborrowing.com ::Registrant:: Name : Carol Brisbine Email : cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com Address : 6059 Jane Dr., Zipcode : 44060 Nation : US Tel : 315-775-6301 Fax : 315-775-6301 So you've got a Yahoo address that some have gotten Yahoo to revoke ... at that point, an ICNN complaint about invalid registration may get the Domain 'handled' 12/15/04 11:29:09 dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com [at] xxx.xx.xxx.xx Dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com[at]ns7.dfdhosting.com (222.223.134.36) ... failed, couldn't connect to nameserver Dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com[at]ns5.tpthosting.com (221.11.133.63) ... Authoritative Answer Recursive queries supported by this server Query for www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com type=255 class=1 www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com CNAME (Canonical Name) www.magnitudeofborrowing.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.realdnssystem.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns3.autonameservers.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns5.tpthosting.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns7.dfdhosting.com ns3.autonameservers.com A (Address) 61.240.131.209 ns5.tpthosting.com A (Address) 221.11.133.63 ns7.dfdhosting.com A (Address) 222.223.134.36 Dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com[at]ns3.autonameservers.com (61.240.131.209) ... failed, couldn't connect to nameserver Dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com[at]ns1.realdnssystem.com failed, no such host Dig www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com[at]xxx.xx.xxx.xx ... Non-authoritative answer Recursive queries supported by this server Query for www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com type=255 class=1 www.longarea.net.cs.suddenly.magnitudeofborrowing.com CNAME (Canonical Name) www.magnitudeofborrowing.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns7.dfdhosting.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.realdnssystem.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns3.autonameservers.com magnitudeofborrowing.com NS (Nameserver) ns5.tpthosting.com As you can see, the DNS issues impact more than just SpamCop. And the results of the above are just those of the moment. By the time you read this, run your own query search, no doubt, the data will be a bit different. Current crap includes hosting DNS (and/or even the website) on compromised machines with short time-to-live settings, but again pointing out that this isn't anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Good news! The .com nameservers A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET thru M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET no longer know about magnitudeofborrowing.com, so it can not currently be used to support URLs used in spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Good news! The .com nameservers A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET thru M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET no longer know about magnitudeofborrowing.com, so it can not currently be used to support URLs used in spam. 21552[/snapback] Sorry, just *stealth" DNS server (as mentioned in another thread. % env TZ=UTC date Tue Dec 21 06:18:26 UTC 2004 % nslookup -type=any magnitudeofborrowing.com 221.11.133.63 Server: 221.11.133.63 Address: 221.11.133.63#53 Name: magnitudeofborrowing.com Address: 221.11.133.68 magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns1.realdnssystem.com. magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns2.dfdhosting.com. magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns3.autonameservers.com. magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns5.tpthosting.com. magnitudeofborrowing.com origin = ns1.managednameservers.net mail addr = hostmaster.magnitudeofborrowing.com serial = 2004121701 refresh = 300 retry = 300 expire = 300 minimum = 300 % nslookup -type=any ns2.dfdhosting.com ns2.dfdhosting.com Server: ns2.dfdhosting.com Address: 222.51.91.245#53 ** server can't find ns2.dfdhosting.com: SERVFAIL % nslookup -type=any dfdhosting.com ns2.dfdhosting.com Server: ns2.dfdhosting.com Address: 222.51.91.245#53 ** server can't find dfdhosting.com: SERVFAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 whois -h whois.yesnic.com magnitudeofborrowing.com ... Domain Name : magnitudeofborrowing.com ::Registrant:: Name : Carol Brisbine Email : cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com Address : 6059 Jane Dr., Zipcode : 44060 Nation : US Tel : 315-775-6301 Fax : 315-775-6301 Other domains also registrered to "Carol Brisbine" / cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com 200womenwhohave.com 230thatmigrates.com accreditedbythe.com afteryousubmit.com already-have.com alsoxls.com anantennathatcreates.com approvalofthefirst.com approvedmeasure.com aresubjectto.com basedpotato.com beautomatically.com borrowingwilllet.com dslispnx.com endtheirpostelection.com euroame.com farmersfound.com forward-ing.com foundtheinjured.com fourwomenwho.com havebeenremovedand.com holdsthestatus.com hunterswhosaid.com improvementsinsexual.com inexhibit.com insidesell.com istherefore.com lastnamename.com mailerisasuper.com russents.com searchoem.com and certainly more still I don't already have listed (I've ignore those already suspended or deleted). (Wazoo edited this post, removing 90% of the quoted part, snipping down to just the pertinent details) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Other domains also registrered to "Carol Brisbine" / cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com21656[/snapback] One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right? 21662[/snapback] I personally have no proof any of these domains ever "spam"'d. They have just been collected by my tools searching for another spammer (P.S., I think I have another 20 domains with that registrant that I've found by now, tool has been seraching "interesting" domains associated with my quarry, for days; It doesn;t help that many spammer registrars "whois" servers timeout and/or hang often - also, I'm always bumping the registrars daily limits for queries - note that the tool which collected most of the domains in the list I gave had only made it through a test list of 500 domains through the digits and upto the letter 'i', the serach from 'j' to 'z' still isn't complete). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Other domains also registrered to "Carol Brisbine" / cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com21656[/snapback] One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right?21662[/snapback] I personally have no proof any of these domains ever "spam"'d.21670[/snapback] You don't need any. Their customer cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com registered commercial domains magnitudeofborrowing.com, 200womenwhohave.com, 230thatmigrates.com, accreditedbythe.com, afteryousubmit.com, already-have.com, alsoxls.com, anantennathatcreates.com, approvalofthefirst.com, approvedmeasure.com, aresubjectto.com, basedpotato.com, beautomatically.com, borrowingwilllet.com, dslispnx.com, endtheirpostelection.com, euroame.com, farmersfound.com, forward-ing.com, foundtheinjured.com, fourwomenwho.com, havebeenremovedand.com, holdsthestatus.com, hunterswhosaid.com, improvementsinsexual.com, inexhibit.com, insidesell.com, istherefore.com, lastnamename.com, mailerisasuper.com, russents.com, and searchoem.com, exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of their Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of their Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . I just filed a report of that violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right? 21662[/snapback] I personally have no proof any of these domains ever "spam"'d.21670[/snapback] You don't need any. Their customer cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com registered commercial domains magnitudeofborrowing.com, ... i mailerisasuper.com, russents.com, and searchoem.com, exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of their Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of their Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . I just filed a report of that violation. 21676[/snapback] This is a *very* powerful tool to use; I had no idea of Yahoo's policies. Thanks! Do you know about the various international "yahoo"'s (e.g. yahoo.com.cn or yahoo.es in particular) or whether any of the other "free services" (e.g. hotmai.com, gmail.com, lycos.com, etc.) have similar policies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right?[... , exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of their Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of their Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . I just filed a report of that violation. 21676[/snapback] Here's a quick list of 778 currently active yahoo accounts being used for registrant or contact emails on "known" spam domains (I have another 1829 at international "Yahoo"'s). With a little work, I'll make up a scri_pt to pair these (just a raw list or 40K lines of whois data) with domains and report them. For now, the list is: 112244[at]yahoo.com a_kelicht[at]yahoo.com a_winborn[at]yahoo.com aa_leb[at]yahoo.com abc[at]yahoo.com absoltehomes52[at]yahoo.com absolutehomes52[at]yahoo.com adamschmansky[at]yahoo.com adamsdkrfbbxirn[at]yahoo.com admjzrx[at]yahoo.com adtmarket[at]yahoo.com adtransformation[at]yahoo.com ahfjjfhgf[at]yahoo.com aigneissoqfz[at]yahoo.com airportmail123[at]yahoo.com alberto_cruz_2004[at]yahoo.com alenbrog[at]yahoo.com alfaduplo[at]yahoo.com alfredbamka[at]yahoo.com all_the_house[at]yahoo.com allgoods_erdwards[at]yahoo.com alonso_eso[at]yahoo.com americanbankcard2000[at]yahoo.com amonashmi[at]yahoo.com amyjonesffd[at]yahoo.com anjelikasurog[at]yahoo.com annaolsen7[at]yahoo.com aportu89_nity[at]yahoo.com apply_next[at]yahoo.com applyforhome[at]yahoo.com ardeipetoti[at]yahoo.com armandvanhelden3[at]yahoo.com asdgre12bana1[at]yahoo.com athingvn[at]yahoo.com augustuslkxpqcxmorn[at]yahoo.com ausmarket2004[at]yahoo.com aweibergchristopher[at]yahoo.com 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Jeff G. Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Excellent! If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far! To: "MSN Hotmail Technical Support" <abuse_EN_SY[at]css.one.microsoft.com> or abuse[at]msn.com [as appropriate] Subject: Commercial use of [] MSN [Hotmail] Technical Support Personnel - your user [] registered [and spammed] commercial domain [] in violation of the Term "Unless otherwise specified, the MSN Sites/Services are for your personal and non-commercial use" of your "MSN Terms of Use" per your page http://privacy.msn.com/tou/ - please enforce that Term. Thanks and Best Regards, [Your Name] ----- Evidence Follows ----- To: mail-abuse[at]yahoo-inc.com, postmaster[at]yahoo.com Subject: Commercial Use of [] Yahoo! Customer Care Representatives - your customer registered and spammed commercial domain [], exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of your Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of your Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . Please enforce that Term. Thanks and Best Regards, [Your Name] ----- Evidence Follows ----- I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Excellent! If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide. 21681[/snapback] Be done toight (just a little egrep/sed/sort to the raw data - collected, probably 200K+ lines of raw whois data on active in the past month spam domains - amazing what you can find easily) I also have 489 hotmail.com accounts. How about lycos.com or gmail (far fewer of them).? Just Yahoo (if worldwide) and Hotmail alone should (begine the process to kill about 700-1500 of these spam domains (depends on number of distinct contact/registrant emails in each domain and the fact that most of these email addresses are used for multiple domains). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenUnderwood Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Just Yahoo (if worldwide) and Hotmail alone should (begine the process to kill about 700-1500 of these spam domains (depends on number of distinct contact/registrant emails in each domain and the fact that most of these email addresses are used for multiple domains). Just remember that this is a two step process. You get the address disabled then complain to the registrar that the address in the registration is invalid. The registrar is supposed to then disable the account, but that does not always happen either (spam friendly registrars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Just remember that this is a two step process. You get the address disabled then complain to the registrar that the address in the registration is invalid. The registrar is supposed to then disable the account, but that does not always happen either (spam friendly registrars). 21684[/snapback] http://wdprs.internic.net alone usually doesn't work, but with a phone call (and without fraud, the recommended ICANN period is 15 days - Network Solutions takes 45+, other registrars have acted within 10 days) -- Yes, **been there** myself already (many hundreds of domains gone) - hence "begine (sic-typo) the process". And yes, many (Enom comes to mind) ignore the issue, others like Joker, suspend the account, but leave the DNS records up so the domain can continue to function. IMO GoDaddy's NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.spam-AND-ABUSE.COM and NS2... are the best solution; Network Solutions' common simple delete is the worst as the spammers can re-register after a month and recover `some' of the value. Bestregistrar's "TERMINATED" is a good middle ground (keeps the domain from being used or re-used). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 [... And yes, many (Enom comes to mind) ignore the issue ... 21685[/snapback] And of course forget about any response from Yesnic, Gandi, Wildwestdomains, Afilias, Parava.net or Stargateinc (these are either "spam-friendly" or owned by actual spammers (like many of Enom affiliates are the actual spammers, and Enom delegates the "responsibility" to them to delete themselves... yea) Still, with pressure, nearly every US or Canandian registrar will act (you often have to provide evidence of fraud (ex. fake headers), and CC: everyone from the FTC to the Internic (who ignores complaints except for statistical purposes *or* if you show fraud). P.S. Bulkregister should also be commended for their "NSxxx.NO-LONGER-VALID.COM" entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Excellent! If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide. 21681[/snapback] Complaints sent to Yahoo: 826 accounts, 2706 domains. I greatly underestimated the amount of data I had to process - I had nearly 5G of spammer whois data. (unfortunately about a dozen were registered *with* Yahoo itself - i.e. yahoo-inc.com and "YNS..." as nme servers - I believe these are Yahoo "commercial" accounts). Also, some registrars "whois" data was strangely formatted so I sill have about 500 of 16,000 spam domains to check. I'll get to Hotmai.coml later today. 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get-even Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Excellent! If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide. 21681[/snapback] I think I overloaded the Yahoo mail server (it started sending '450' mailbox full try again messages back, but they were all eventually originally dekvered or resent and delivered). Anyway, for hotmail.com - 489 accounts, 1637 domains. No list as this board doesn't seem to take messages that large (BTW. Hotmail's "abuse[at]" account seem to be working again -- another story, but I've been talking to long time - both [at] Microsoft and knowing me - contacts at MS about clearing up the rfc-ignorant.org issues for hotmail and msn -- Notice: they keep microsoft.com *perfectly* clean). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
get-even Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I think I overloaded the Yahoo mail server (it started sending '450' mailbox full try again messages back, but they were all eventually originally dekvered or resent and delivered). Anyway, for hotmail.com - 489 accounts, 1637 domains. No list as this board doesn't seem to take messages that large (BTW. Hotmail's "abuse[at]" account seem to be working again -- another story, but I've been talking to long time - both [at] Microsoft and knowing me - contacts at MS about clearing up the rfc-ignorant.org issues for hotmail and msn -- Notice: they keep microsoft.com *perfectly* clean). 21728[/snapback] Three different types of responses from MS. Examples of all three below (Note all messages were iidentical: except for the account and domain name(s) -- How MS decides to bounce, assign to abuse[at]hotmail.com or to abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com is entirely beyond me; I'll call some MS people and ask them to check. 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Thank you for contacting MSN Hotmail Support. Remember that MSN Hotmail also has comprehensive online help available--just click "Help" in the upper right corner. ---------------------------------------------- Type 2 ------------------------------------------------------------- From daemon Wed Dec 22 23:11:37 2004 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:37 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> To: ?????????? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/????????????? The original message was received at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0800 (PST) from ??????????[at]localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com> (reason: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx2.hotmail.com.: >>> DATA <<< 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com 550 5.1.1 MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>... User unknown <<< 554 5.5.2 No valid recipients --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/????????????? Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; ????????????? Arrival-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; abuse[at]hotmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx2.hotmail.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:37 -0500 (EST) --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897????????????? Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <??????????> Received: (from ??????????[at]localhost) by ?????????????(8.12.11/8.12.11) id iBN7BYgY016714 for MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0500 (EST) From: XXXXXX X XXXXXXXXX <??????????> Message-Id: <200412230711.iBN7BYgY016714[at]????????????> To: MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com> Subject: Commercial Use of [bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com] MSN [Hotmail] Technical Support Personnel, Your user bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com registered or is a listed Registrant, Administrative or Techical contact for [and spammed] commercial domain(s) in violation of the Term "Unless otherwise specified, the MSN Sites/Services are for your personal and non-commercial use" of your "MSN Terms of Use" per your page http://privacy.msn.com/tou/. *** Domain Name(s) -- Registrant/Contact email(s) Domain Name: allwealthproductplace.com - bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com bpagatpat_mr[at]h otmail.com Domain Name: greatshopforbuyers.com - bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com bpagatpat_mr[at]hotm ail.com Please enforce that Term. Thanks and Best Regards, XXXXXX X XXXXXXXXX ??????????[at]????????????? --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????-- ---------------------------------------------- Type 3 ------------------------------------------------------------- From abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com Wed Dec 22 23:23:43 2004 X-Originating-IP: 10.251.84.153 Thread-Topic: CST182816626ID - Commercial Use of [a_mistercamiling[at]hotmail.com] X-Mailer: Microsoft CSS 2000 X-CSSTicketID: 0 thread-index: AcTov9EvH4FqC7itSbirwJdIAsojVQ== From: "MSN Hotmail Support" <abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com> To: < ??????????[at]?????????????> Cc: Subject: RE: CST182816626ID - Commercial Use of [a_mistercamiling[at]hotmail.com] Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:20:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4E87C.C30EC3D0" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2004 07:20:01.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1392FC0:01C4E8 BF] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4E87C.C30EC3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ***This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that we have received your report, which will be investigated personally by one of our Support Representatives within 24 hours. Your report is important to us and we will treat it accordingly. You will receive no further contact from MSN about this report, unless we need further information to complete our investigation, or extenuating circumstances apply. *** NOTE: To receive help with your Hotmail account or Hotmail issues not related to Hotmail Abuse , please sign-in to your account and click the "Help" link in the upper right hand corner. Here you will find a list of our recent customer questions and a comprehensive library of self-help articles. If you are unable to find what you need using our Help system, you can submit a question using our support form and we'll respond to you within 24 hours. Unsolicited e-mail (or spam) is an issue challenging all ISPs and web-based e-mail services. We want you to know that MSN Hotmail does not sell its membership lists, or give permission to anyone who wishes to send unsolicited e-mails. MSN Hotmail does not monitor or review e-mail messages that are sent to MSN Hotmail customers, but we do provide filtering systems which can be used by account holders to help them control the messages delivered to their Inbox. It's common for unsolicited e-mail to contain a forged address on the "From:" line. This means that, while an unsolicited e-mail may appear to have been sent from an MSN Hotmail account, it can just as easily have been sent from another domain. The only way to determine the original source is by investigating the e-mail header. If the message did originate from an MSN Hotmail account, we will take immediate and appropriate action. In order for us to take action on your issue you please ensure that you sent us the full header that included the X-Originating-IP and X-Originating-Email of the MSN Hotmail account you are reporting. If you exposed the full header and it does not contain an X-originating-IP and X-Originating-Email, it means the message has been forged, which means it is not from a legitimate account and we unfortunately will be unable to take action. Additionally if the original message you sent us did not have the full headers exposed and it does contain the X-Originating-IP and X-Originating-Email please resubmit your request. For instructions on how to expose full headers, report spam or Abuse to MSN or MSN Hotmail please visit: http://support.msn.com/solutionarticle.asp...msncom&aid=7788 or http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/ua...g=EN&country=US and refer to the sections on "Report Junk E-Mail to MSN Hotmail" and "Report e-mail abuse to MSN Hotmail". In addition to the actions we're going to take, if the message is not from a Hotmail customer you should contact the sender's ISP. By looking at the domain (this is the part after the "[at]" sign in an email address or the last part of the server name in a URL) you will be able to find the information you need to report the incident. For example, the email address falseaddress001[at] falseaddress.com has a domain of "falseaddress.com." Once you know the domain, email the entire message (including full headers) to "abuse[at]" that domain name and explain your situation. For example, if you received spam from user[at]falseaddress.com, send the original email and your complaint to abuse[at]falseaddress.com. The ISP may have further requirements, but this is the person or group you need to contact. As stated above please note that spammers frequently forge their identity, and thus the ISP you contact many not be able to take any action. If you suspect a crime is being committed, you should report it directly to your local police authorities. MSN Hotmail can only require its users to conform to its Terms of Use and Subscription Agreement (http://privacy.msn.com/tou/). MSN reports all cases of suspected child pornography to the proper authorities. Please do not respond to this e-mail, as any messages sent to this address by using the "Reply" button will not receive a response. We appreciate your understanding that due to our privacy policy, we will not report back to you about any action taken against MSN Hotmail users. However, we want to assure you that we will take appropriate action against MSN Hotmail users who have violated the MSN Hotmail Terms of Use. To learn how to help keep children safe online go to "A Parent's Guide to Online Safety" at http://onlinesafetyguide.msn.com Thank you for reporting your issue to MSN Hotmail E-Mail Abuse Support! ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4E87C.C30EC3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><BODY>***This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that we have received your report, which will be investigated personally by on e of our Support Representatives within 24 hours. Your report is important to us and we will treat it accordingly. You will receive no further contact fr om MSN about this report, unless we need further information to complete our investigation, or extenuating circumstances apply. *** <br> <br> NOTE: To receive help with your Hotmail account or Hotmail issues not related to Hotmail Abuse , please sign-in to your account and click the "Help" link in th e upper right hand corner. Here you will find a list of our recent customer questions and a comprehensive library of self-help articles. If you are unabl e to find what you need using our Help system, you can submit a question using our support form and we'll respond to you within 24 hours. <br> <br> U nsolicited e-mail (or spam) is an issue challenging all ISPs and web-bas ed e-mail services. We want you to know that MSN Hotmail does not sell its membership lists, or give permission to anyone who wishes to send unsolicited e-mails. MSN Hotmail does not monitor or review e-mail messages that are sent to MSN Hotmail customers, but we do provide filtering systems which can be used by account holders to help them control the messages delivered to their Inbox. <br> <br> It’s common for unsolicited e-mail to contain a forged address on the “From:" line. This means that, while an unsolicited e-mail may appear to have been sent from an MSN Hotmail account, it can just as easily have been sent from another domain. The only way to determine the original source is by investigating the e-mail header. If the message d id originate from an MSN Hotmail account, we will take immediate and appropriate action. <br> <br> In order for us to take action on your issue you please ensure that you sent us the full header that included the X-Orig inating-IP and X-Originating-Email of the MSN Hotmail account you are reporting. If you exposed the full header and it does not contain an X-originatin g-IP and X-Originating-Email, it means the message has been forged, which means it is not from a legitimate account and we unfortunately will be unable t o take action. Additionally if the original message you sent us did not have the full headers exposed and it does contain the X-Originating-IP and X-Ori ginating-Email please resubmit your request. <br> <br> For instructions on how to expose full headers, report spam or Abuse to MSN or MSN Hotmail ple ase visit: <br> http://support.msn.com/solutionarticle.asp...msncom&aid=7788 or http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/ua...ang=EN&country= US and refer to the sections on “Report Junk E-Mail to MSN Hotmail” and “Report e-mail abuse to MSN Hotmail”. <br> <br> In ad dition to the actions we’re going to take, if the message is not f rom a Hotmail customer you should contact the sender's ISP. By looking at the domain (this is the part after the "[at]" sign in an email address or the las t part of the server name in a URL) you will be able to find the information you need to report the incident. For example, the email address falseaddres s001[at] falseaddress.com has a domain of "falseaddress.com." <br> <br> Once you know the domain, email the entire message (including full headers) to "abuse[at]" that domain name and explain your situation. For example, if you received spam from user[at]falseaddress.com, send the original email and your complaint to abuse[at]falseaddress.com. The ISP may have further requirements, but this is the person or group you need to contact. As stated above please note that spammers frequently forge their identity, and thus the ISP you contact many not be able to take any action. <br> <br> If you suspect a crime is being committed, you should report it directly to your local police auth orities. MSN Hotmail can only require its users to conform to its Terms of Use and Subscription Agreement (http://privacy.msn.com/tou/). MSN reports all cases of suspected child pornography to the proper authorities. <br> <br> <br> Please do not respond to this e-mail, as any messages sent to this address by using the “Reply” button will not receive a response. We appreciate your understanding that due to our privacy policy, we will no t report back to you about any action taken against MSN Hotmail users. However, we want to assure you that we will take appropriate action against MSN Ho tmail users who have violated the MSN Hotmail Terms of Use. <br> <br> To learn how to help keep children safe online go to “A Parent’s Guide to Online Safety” at http://onlinesafetyguide.msn.com <br> <br> <br> Thank you for reporting your issue to MSN Hotmail E-Mail Abuse Sup port!</BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4E87C.C30EC3D0-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazoo Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 deleted one post that was nothing but a quote of a previous huge post (maybe you typed something in ..??? but quote ended at the same place the original post did ???? saw no reason for the quoted duplication .... the huge HotMail response stuff ...?? yes???? Maybe you're thinking that you're the first to ever have received the brain-dead "press-F2" to respond droid stuff? Although a bit distressing that recently someone had hollered at sucessfully getting someone to allegedly take that bad "how to report the sender" crap out, but .. then again, I think that was dealing with a web page ..?? It's great that you're all enthused and getting active .. just not sure what you really expect from these massive postings here in a Help Forum ... any problem with splitting this latter stuff off into a 'new' Topic and moving it to the Lounge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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