kolor Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Hi I see again some error .May I know why it happened Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7141290392.c52be1e2@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@google.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7141290392.c52be1e2@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobiBue Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I believe the mail server is reaching its HDD limit, hence the SMTP 452 #4.3.1 errors. Somehow I think there is a cleanup job running in the background, but it is also possible that the server's HDD is starting to lose capacity due to corrupted sectors (this is just a thought, although it's feasible taking into consideration the age of the system...) and with that, even a cleanup job won't keep the system happy for long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appleseed Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I keep getting that and other errors too. If you re-send the spamreport again, it should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 8:35 PM, Appleseed said: If you re-send the spamreport again, it should work. Sometimes it does work. Sometimes it hits the error. If the second try doesn't work, the this try seems to always work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolor Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Still the same issue .I wrote email to Cisco about this issue and why nobody fix this .But I see nobody care about it. I feel spamcop go to be obsolete idea . Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7148829.3c0fe287@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@hetzner.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7148829.3c0fe287@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7148832.5f34342c@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@cloudflare.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7148832.5f34342c@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Edited September 30, 2021 by kolor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 hours ago, kolor said: But I see nobody care about it. The deputies seem to care, but I hear they are getting some push back from those who are not able to duplicate the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobiBue Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 16 hours ago, kolor said: Still the same issue .I wrote email to Cisco about this issue and why nobody fix this .But I see nobody care about it. I feel spamcop go to be obsolete idea . Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7148829.3c0fe287@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@hetzner.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7148829.3c0fe287@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7148832.5f34342c@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@cloudflare.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7148832.5f34342c@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) when I get the "Can't send report" message, I simply resubmit and usually the second time around it works. Honestly, I don't know if I'm "allowed" to resubmit spam (usually not,) but in these cases I believe these measures are warranted. The reason I resubmit is that reports are not sent if the error arises, and it is not possible (yet) to manually force a report to be re-sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolor Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 I have been sending spam reports for years .I know how to treat it. I have regret for Spamcop TEAM an Cisco .The behavior are sluggishness and inept . I see this that way from my country Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The issue seems to be getting worse. nearly every other report it is now doing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 5:29 AM, kolor said: Still the same issue .I wrote email to Cisco about this issue and why nobody fix this .But I see nobody care about it. I feel spamcop go to be obsolete idea . Spamcop no longer even has the clout it used to have many years ago. Did you know the abuse departments who receive your report can reply, and indirectly reply to you, and send you a message? I used to get thank yous, and such from providers. Not any more. spam just keep coming from the same old sources every freaking day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolor Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 I'm taking about server .Do you have home .How you treat your home .Taking care of the house is a duty. The same here if I have server I try care about it .But this look like Owner has vacation and no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, KNERD said: The issue seems to be getting worse. Strange. Got better for me for a few days. Then I finally got one failure again. It appears you may have been getting my errors. Edited October 5, 2021 by gnarlymarley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, gnarlymarley said: Strange. Got better for me for a few days. Then I finally got one failure again. It appears you may have been getting my errors. Seems "Cloud protection" is secretly blocking certain IP's (lots of them mine to this Newsgroup as example change IP and it works fine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 19 hours ago, petzl said: is secretly blocking certain IP's I am not sure if it is blocking certain IP's. I seem to have gotten a lot of these so far today. Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144221751.81f71ca3@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144221751.81f71ca3@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144224831.e9be9495@bounces.spamcop.net, cncert@cert.org.cn): smtpFrom: mail From 7144224831.e9be9495@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144224833.665c12e3@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144224833.665c12e3@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144224834.fbf3bb33@bounces.spamcop.net, spam@ccert.edu.cn): smtpFrom: mail From 7144224834.fbf3bb33@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144224835.f5a219bc@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@12321.cn): smtpFrom: mail From 7144224835.f5a219bc@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144224836.877e9715@bounces.spamcop.net, ahdata@189.cn): smtpFrom: mail From 7144224836.877e9715@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I got a bunch more. I think me getting less spam last week means I has less chance of getting the error. seems that I got a lot of spam today, and I got the error more. Maybe some sort of timing issue? Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144226528.6bb9ddd0@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144226528.6bb9ddd0@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144228866.5b065311@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144228866.5b065311@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144230849.6d357fc3@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144230849.6d357fc3@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144231165.85fae4c2@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144231165.85fae4c2@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144231555.1ee00b07@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7144231555.1ee00b07@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, gnarlymarley said: am not sure if it is blocking certain IP's. I seem to have gotten a lot of these so far today. I use a VPN so I can easily switch IP's including to not use a VPN at all. Not called "Cloud protection" had name wrong it's called It's called Cloudflarehttps://www.cloudflare.com Google/Microsoft and others use it So I'm suspecting a lot of spam reports coming/going through server may wrongly trigger some algorithm? SpamCops email server does not get a good reputation scorehttps://talosintelligence.com/reputation_center/lookup?search=184.94.240.112 Also often get this https://ibb.co/j8BSKYs? But in this case this is media using IP blocking to stop VPN access That is what happens when using a VPN to access a Australian newspaper, They have all VPN IP's blocked. This though occasionally happens when VPN is off. There is never anything wrong with my internet. But as the VPN uses shared IP's I sometimes get blocked by Cloudflare and get a notice I've been blocked by cloudflare! Then again as you reported before almost always a disk space issue. Usually it is low disk space where the transport queue is located (default C:). Many organization underestimate the amount of disk space required for Drive when all of the various logs and transport queue are included. Edited October 6, 2021 by petzl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolor Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (714451837.d93803ae@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@first-colo.net): smtpFrom: mail From 714451837.d93803ae@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7144751848.eca858b7@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@firstcolo.de): smtpFrom: mail From 714451848.eca858b7@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7145229671.76e3c9e0@bounces.spamcop.net, anti-spam@ns.chinanet.cn.net): smtpFrom: mail From 7145229671.76e3c9e0@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Perhaps if were to add fuel to our accounts, then started a chargeback for a broken service, then maybe that will get their attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, KNERD said: Perhaps if were to add fuel to our accounts, then started a chargeback for a broken service, then maybe that will get their attention? SpamCop has a reoccurring problem here Probably overworked email server and not big enough drive space to now cope? gnarlymarley has suggested the most probable cause as .Almost always a disk space issue. Usually it is low disk space where the transport queue is located (default C:). Many organization underestimate the amount of disk space required for Drive when all of the various logs and transport queue are included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 But speculation does not resolve the issue, and it goes ignored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, KNERD said: But speculation does not resolve the issue, and it goes ignored Worked for me yesterday don't get much spam so someone fixed somethinghttps://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6726676696zd1456b7bdfeadb265e11568cc64b5a1cz Got a reply from abuse today a VPS though? Re: [SpamCop (136.144.244.188) id:XXXXXX].. TransIP abuse <support[AT]transip[DOT]nl> Fri, Oct 15, 8:58 PM (12 hours ago) to 7145956092 Good morning, Thank you for the heads-up. I have notified the owner of this VPS. Necessary actions will be taken in a timely manner. Regards, XX Edited October 15, 2021 by petzl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobiBue Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 it has been working for me too... clearly "speculation does not resolve the issue" but by the system working (be it on and off or even seemingly on) one can speculate that the system is being maintained and probably some disk space assigned (or even reprogrammed to account for certain 'errors') to work properly.... pure speculation here... also got a reply just moments ago from NTT Communications(OCN) (automated reply though) and from support.mchost.ru (also automated reply) something is working 😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Was referring to the errors on sending the report, not responses from abuse departments. I reported six spams Saturday with no errors, but on Friday is was closer to fifteen. Out of those fifteen, I got two errors. Edited October 16, 2021 by KNERD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNERD Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just got another today Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7146447064.95d4bab7@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@colocrossing.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7146447064.95d4bab7@bounces.spamcop.net: error (452 #4.3.1 temporary system error (12) ) Can't send report: smtpEnvelope (7146447065.dbf9f580@bounces.spamcop.net, abuse@cloudflare.com): smtpFrom: mail From 7146447065.dbf9f580@bounces.spamcop.net: error (550 No expected reply from SMTP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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