Wazoo Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 :google: Battle over Internet Control Yeah, the UN, that's it .... the same folks that "solve" all the rest of the world's problems, conflicts, and issues .. geeze ... And the UN would handle the current feud going on between a couple of bandwidth providers ...??? :google: Dispute leads to Internet woes for thousands
Farelf Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Yes, the UN does such a great job And the Cogent Vs Level 3 thing Wednesday to Friday eh? Could explain degraded performance throughout the rest of the internet (not just "thousands" affected). People seem to consistently underestimate internet effects (inadequate data for assessment, failure of "courage" in making the call). At least Newscientist is now saying spam accounts for 70% of emails (as at June 30) which is getting a little closer to the 95% or more it "feels" like and much more than the 5-10% "official" figure as recently as a year or so ago. [Added - darn, dunno where I got that from but it wasn't NS - NS simply said phishes have increased 90% from 3 million (per what?) Jan 1 to 5.7 million Jun 30)] Probably too late to go back to carrier pigeons, isn't it?
Jeff G. Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 Probably too late to go back to carrier pigeons, isn't it?33849[/snapback] For humorous looks at carrying IP data via carrier pigeons AKA avian carriers, see RFC1149 and RFC2549.
Farelf Posted October 9, 2005 Posted October 9, 2005 ... see RFC1149 and RFC2549. 33855[/snapback] Many thanks! I note the latter allows for everything from pterodactyls on down. Better bandwidth with those babies. Possibility of worm-hole routing is attractive in reduction of latency (certainly superior to the black-hole routing I am sometimes seeing lately).
Jeff G. Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 It seems there's something else big going on - lots of routers around the world seem not to be responding, pushing one set of estimates of global packet loss up to over 20% and of traffic index down to below 70. Please see Internet Traffic Report for details. Thanks!
Wazoo Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 Probably too late to go back to carrier pigeons, isn't it? 33849[/snapback] And yet the use of your common everyday pigeon (perhaps to include those older carrier pigeons with memory problems?) still continues on some parts of the world, services rendered praised daily by those unknowing users ... PigeonRank™
Wazoo Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 It seems there's something else big going on - lots of routers around the world seem not to be responding, pushing one set of estimates of global packet loss up to over 20% and of traffic index down to below 70. Please see Internet Traffic Report for details. Thanks! 34781[/snapback] Continent .. Current Index .. Avg. Response Time (ms) .. Avg. Packet Loss (%) Asia ............ 30 ...................... 666 .................................. 51 % The last time I remeber seeing this, it was due to a flaw/but/exploited bit of code in the "big" bandwidth servers involved at the "tier 1" levels .... updates, patches, etc. were out pretty danged quick, but .... on the oher hand, maybe it's that the Chinese whas been extended a bit further out and is now doing more than just protecting its citizens from that Internet thing (no doubt still allowing the spam spew to go out <g>)
Jeff G. Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 The problem with the statistics for North America appears to mostly be with Qwest routers not responding. Whether or not that indicates a problem with actual data transit between Qwest customers and the rest of the Internet is anyone's guess at this point.
Wazoo Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 That is odd, noting that it's nation-wide also ... wow!
Jeff G. Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 This couldn't have anything to do with the listings at http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=qwest.net, could it?
Jeff G. Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 It appears that the big situation was resolved in North America for Qwest routers around 05:00 EDT -0400 (09:00 UTC -0000). ITR's North American packet loss is back down to around 12% and its North American traffic index is back up to 81 (fairly normal figures), although 50% packet loss at the Qwest routers is still of concern, as is total unresponsiveness of other routers. However, the global situation is still far from normal.
Jeff G. Posted October 25, 2005 Posted October 25, 2005 ITR's North American packet loss is back down to around 12% and its North American traffic index is back up to 8134859[/snapback] Perhaps I wrote too soon. Those numbers are back at the errant 19% and 75.
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