twi Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hi! What should I do to understand why You found our mail server? Query bl.spamcop.net - 195.84.105.131 195.84.105.131 is mail.tibnor.se (Help) (Trace IP) (Senderbase lookup) 195.84.105.131 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2) Since SpamCop started counting, this system has been reported less than 10 times by less than 10 users. It has been sending mail consistently for at least 20.4 days. It has been listed for less than 24 hours. * In the past week, this system has: Been detected sending mail to spam traps * Been witnessed sending mail less than 10 times Is some of our adresses hijacked or are we have we a couple of users missusing our mailsystem? We can´t find the source to this. Regards /Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellen Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I don't speak Swedish but it appears that you are sending anti-virus notices to the spamtraps. As almost 100% of the viruses currently in circulation are forging the "from" address these notices are being sent to innocent email addresses; most people have turned off these notices. I have delisted the IP this one time but additional autoresponses to the traps may lead to a re-listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twi Posted March 17, 2004 Author Share Posted March 17, 2004 Hi! I´m aware of that, disabled notify sender earlier, weeks ago... I double checked that no "Notify sender" box is checked. Could it be Subject: DELIVERY FAILURE: User fake.name (fake.name[at]tibnor.se) not listed in Domino Directory Edit: Tripple checked that and found one box...checked, unchecked now and hopefully problem solved. Thanks! /Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourbuddy Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 You can't even send a "non-delivery" response without getting reported by some SpamCop fanatic?? Now that's really dumb, on the part of the reporter - and on the part of SpamCop, for allowing the nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazoo Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Had you read Ellen's response, she wasn't mentioning non-delivery messages, it was anti-virus notifictions, which puts the issue into a whole different set of campaign issues .. that against the anti-virus companies / software that generates this absurd e-mail traffic to the forged From: line addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralsky's Fatal Tumor Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Had you read Ellen's response... yourbuddy can read? I thought he was a bot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daringone Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Is yourbuddy an Anti-Spamcop guy, or just really cynical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenUnderwood Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 yourbuddy simply is very sensitive to the fact that SpamCop (like all BL's) can make mistakes and that those mistakes can and do cause lost valid messages. yourbuddy also feels that the SpamCop BL is more suseptible to abuse because it accepts anybody's word that the message is spam. While this is possible and probably has happened at some time, there are precautions in place to protect against this abuse. A person with multiple accounts, or a group of people, would need to submit messages from the same server to get it blacklisted. To keep it on the list, they would need to continue to do this as IP's are dropped when the reports stop. I hope I have stated yourbuddy's position acurately as I do NOT wish to start another flame war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Betsy Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 yourbuddy alledgedly spent some time unable to communicate with his clients due to a spamcop listing error. He promotes content filters as the solution to spam and opposes blocklists except for MAPS and, IIRC, spamhaus. He doesn't approve of spamcop bl aggressiveness so points out any possible way that spamcop could have erred when a problem is posted. Once in a great while he posts something germane and useful. Miss Betsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turetzsr Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 <snip> Once in a great while he posts something germane and useful. ...Actually, I think his volume of germane and useful has surpassed his anti-SpamCop volume. Is yourbuddy an Anti-Spamcop guy, or just really cynical? ...daringone -- you might take a look at yourbuddy's postings so you can make up your own mind. If you click on his name where it is a hyperlink, you'll see an option labeled "Find all posts by this member" that will take you to a list of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourbuddy Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 and ... , daringone (is that "darin gone" or "daring one") if you click on the big black letters that spell out yourbuddy (yes, that's the one - on the left, at the top of this message) you can find some extra Information on yourbuddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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