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#1 dbiel

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 02:31 PM

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 07:07 AM

additional test edit, it is suprising how may views this little test topic has had.

Edited by dbiel, 05 July 2006 - 07:09 AM.

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#3 Farelf

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 08:02 AM

... it is suprising how may views this little test topic has had.

The views on fairly well all the test topics are way out of proportion to the contents - grounds for endless conjecture.
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#4 Farelf

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 08:36 PM

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 08:38 AM

I think its because we're all interested to see what you are testing...
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 10:15 AM

Test post ignore

Oh, and by the way, don't think of an elephant.
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#7 Farelf

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 03:26 PM

I think its because we're all interested to see what you are testing...

Oh, and by the way, don't think of an elephant.

To explain: just looking at what happens to links when a post is moved. This was where it was moved "to". The link to the previous location then went to the top of the old topic. But then I am, as often confessed, a consistent liar.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 04:11 PM

<snip>
To explain: .... But then I am, as often confessed, a consistent liar.

"But there was ...
"no explosion.
"What?
"He lied.
"Everything [Farelf] tells you is a lie.
"Everything [Farelf] tells you is a lie.
Farelf: "Listen to this carefully, Norman.
Farelf: "I am lying.
Norman:"You say you are lying,
Norman:"but if everything you say is a lie,
Norman:"then you are telling the truth, but ...
Norman:"you cannot tell the truth
Norman:"because everything you say is a lie.
Norman:"You lie -- You tell the truth --
Norman:"But you cannot --
Norman:"Illogical!
Norman:"Illogical!
Norman:"Please explain."

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 10:03 PM

The views on fairly well all the test topics are way out of proportion to the contents - grounds for endless conjecture.

I am forced to look, just to see "what" is being tested .... for all I know, someone may be checking to see if the the web page is flammable <g>

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:45 AM

The views on fairly well all the test topics are way out of proportion to the contents - grounds for endless conjecture.

I'm just nosy and read every unread message ;)
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#11 turetzsr

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:09 PM

I'm just nosy and read every unread message ;)

...Ditto.

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#12 qjvgpuryy

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 11:52 AM

I'm just nosy and read every unread message ;)

...Ditto.

I must admit that so am I. :blush:
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Posted 01 November 2006 - 09:45 AM

I must admit that so am I.

Just testing some quoting, since someone else is having some problems with it this morning.

Looks as if it's working OK...

Edited by DavidT, 01 November 2006 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:04 AM

I believe that the problem is the number of quotes used. There seems to be a limit on how many quotes can be contained in a single post.
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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:16 AM

Copy of problem post with much of the text deleted to shorten post for testing - see following post that will delete some quotes to isolate problem

[quote]It is not possible to see others reports unless you receive them via email.[/quote]
Bum. As you'll appreciate, I'm a bit stuck here, because our hosts won't let me in to see my e-mail at all

[quote]"Double OPt-in" in a spammers term. Confirmed opt-in is the preferred term, if that is what you are doing.[/quote]
How embarrassing. I've always called it "verifying" but a rapid glance about the place suggested the accepted term was "double-opt-in." Anyway, yes, that's the idea: there's a Mailing List page where you lob

[quote]As a paying reporter, I can see some information on that IP as follows:[/quote]
I'm not a paying reporter, but that's exactly the info I see -- I wasn't sure if it was okay to post the

[quote]I see Mill's list, some misdirected bounces, and some phishing attempts, all spam, but maybe not from you if it is indeed a shared server.[/quote]
No, we're the List bits only. Maybe the bounces, come to think of it -- theweekly.co.uk's recently been vics,

[quote]The 2 Mil's lists were both mole reports, so no full report is sent. You will need to contact the anything that would allow you to whitelist (remove) the reporter.[/quote]
Exc, I'll try that. As I say, if the reporting address has to concealed, that's fine. Obviously it'd be nice to

[quote]In most cases, if there are 2 reports, it means many others received the message who also don't want it but simply delete it.[/quote]
That would be a big surprise, because of the verification bit. We simply don't know your address until you

[quote]You may want to sign up for a free ISP account - see How can I get SpamCop reports about my network?[/quote]
It says I'm already registered, so I'm guessing the ISP account has the same functionality as the e-mail .

[quote]As a mole, I would have to add (2d) that mole reports do not contribute to the blocklist. They may to be listed in isolation of more "accountable" reports nor can they even do as much as prolong the period of listing (not for many months past).[/quote]
Spook. The mystery thickens. As I say, from my shallow understanding of Spamcop the fact any block that

[quote]Mil's Mailing List has had nothing to do with the IP's listing on the basis of the evidence seen. The OP's ISP has shot the (sitting ducks come to mind).[/quote]

[quote]Sounds like you've got a fairly accurate understanding of what happened, but most of us here can't give you any more specifics because we're fellow users, not SpamCop admins. I'd recommend that you try to reach the Deputies at: deputies at admin dot spamcop dot net.[/quote]

[quote]They might be willing to give you a better picture of what caused that IP to get listed, because it *might* involve spamtrap hits from "after the fact" bounce activity, and they'd be able to see that.[/quote]
That'd be interesting because, as you'd expect from a slightly popular, wildly irregular newsletter, we have
[quote]As for those moles, you should report them to the Deputies as well, in that they seem to be reporting things that they signed up to receive and that diminishes the efforts of the rest of the SpamCop users.[/quote]
My instinctive grasp of quoting, there.
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#16 StevenUnderwood

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:16 AM

I believe that the problem is the number of quotes used.
There seems to be a limit on how many quotes can be contained in a single post.

Glad someone has an answer, I looked over that post (and re-edited it) several times before giving up.
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#17 dbiel

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:19 AM

Deleted first 4 quotes for testing


The 2 Mil's lists were both mole reports, so no full report is sent. You will need to contact the anything that would allow you to whitelist (remove) the reporter.

Exc, I'll try that. As I say, if the reporting address has to concealed, that's fine. Obviously it'd be nice to

In most cases, if there are 2 reports, it means many others received the message who also don't want it but simply delete it.

That would be a big surprise, because of the verification bit. We simply don't know your address until you

You may want to sign up for a free ISP account - see How can I get SpamCop reports about my network?

It says I'm already registered, so I'm guessing the ISP account has the same functionality as the e-mail .

As a mole, I would have to add (2d) that mole reports do not contribute to the blocklist. They may to be listed in isolation of more "accountable" reports nor can they even do as much as prolong the period of listing (not for many months past).

Spook. The mystery thickens. As I say, from my shallow understanding of Spamcop the fact any block that

Mil's Mailing List has had nothing to do with the IP's listing on the basis of the evidence seen. The OP's ISP has shot the (sitting ducks come to mind).


Sounds like you've got a fairly accurate understanding of what happened, but most of us here can't give you any more specifics because we're fellow users, not SpamCop admins. I'd recommend that you try to reach the Deputies at: deputies at admin dot spamcop dot net.


They might be willing to give you a better picture of what caused that IP to get listed, because it *might* involve spamtrap hits from "after the fact" bounce activity, and they'd be able to see that.

That'd be interesting because, as you'd expect from a slightly popular, wildly irregular newsletter, we have

As for those moles, you should report them to the Deputies as well, in that they seem to be reporting things that they signed up to receive and that diminishes the efforts of the rest of the SpamCop users.

My instinctive grasp of quoting, there.
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#18 Farelf

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:24 AM

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"

"Semper edam," snorted Good Queen Bess, "why must one always have this Dutch cheese?"


Yes, 10 is the limit - add one more and kapow
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#19 DavidT

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 10:31 AM

Good catch, dbiel. dt

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Posted 01 November 2006 - 08:26 PM

10 quotes per post is the curent setting. I 'fixed' the original problem post by converting a couple 'quote' tags to 'code' statements. Background: FireFox (1.0.x) tended to blow up at around 12 to 14 embedded quotes. Opera tended to blow up at something around 9 to 12 embedded quotes. The limit setting at 10 embedded quotes per post has been the Default and recommended setting since version 2.0.1 or so .... making that a couple of years now ....




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