Jeff G. Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 <a name="spamtrap"></a> spam Trap or Spamtrap An email address that is never used to send or receive email, created for the specific purpose of "trapping" spam. Spammers can discover these addresses through various means - the same ways that they use to get your email address. The SCBL (SpamCop Blocking List), uses Sspam Ttraps to identify the IP addresses from which unsolicited email comes, and is programmed to recognize and discard confirmation emails sent to a mistyped addresses. The SCBLSpamCop's algorithm for listing IP addresses applies a heavier weight to Sspam Ttrap hits than to Ruser reports and as a result spam Trapsand can cause an IP addresses to be listed much faster and for a longer time periods than Rreports from reporters. spam Trap hits do not generate Reports, and therefore do not show up in the Report HistoryUnlike reports generated by manual reporting, no reports are sent back to the source of the spam, the listing formula is simply updated automaticly. [the same paragraph above, fully changed] The SCBL (SpamCop Blocking List) uses spam Traps to identify the IP addresses from which unsolicited email comes, and is programmed to recognize and discard confirmation emails sent to mistyped addresses. The SCBL's algorithm for listing IP addresses applies a heavier weight to spam Trap hits than to Reports and as a result spam Traps can cause IP addresses to be listed much faster and for longer time periods than Reports. spam Trap hits do not generate Reports, and therefore do not show up in the Report History. Based on original entry by turetzsr aka Steve T Rewrite by Miss Betsy Coments by Wazoo and Jeff G. Edit by dbiel 2005/07/29 18:00 PDT 1st major rewrite also written from the view point of SpamCop (This Glossary is a SpamCop specific glossary, not a general usage glossary) Edit by Jeff G. 2005/07/29 22:19 EDT Same as above, but with a few changes (bolded and in red)
Miss Betsy Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 I would like the addition of the information that other blocklists besides spam cop use spam traps (general knowledge that newbies can use) and that an email address that has been abandoned for use because of the amount of spam it receives is not considered a spam trap (a frequently asked question). An email address that is never used to send or receive email, created for the specific purpose of "trapping" spam. spam Traps are created by those who maintain blocklists to identify spamming sources. Spammers can discover spam Trap addresses through various means - the same ways that they use to get your email address. An email address that has been abandoned because of the amount of spam it receives is not considered a true spam Trap and is never used by blocklists to trap spam. Miss Betsy
dbiel Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 <snip> Spammers can discover spam Trap addresses through various means - the same ways that they use to get your email address. An email address that has been abandoned because of the amount of spam it receives is not considered a true spam Trap and is never used by blocklists to trap spam. 30968[/snapback] I have changed "these" to spam Trap as you have suggested. I am not confortable with the term "never" as we do not have working knowledge of exactly how every blocking list functions. Also would like to here input from others as to the value of the adding the additional data. spam Traps are created used by those who maintain blocklists to identify spamming sources. (red indicates alterate idea)One goal is to keep entries as short as possible but still provide a usable definition (a difficult balance) Thank you for your input.
Jeff G. Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 I like the additions, but I share dbiel's concern over "never". Regarding length of Glossary entries, how about a very simple entry like "An email address that is never used to send or receive email, created for the specific purpose of "trapping" spam. Please see What is a spam Trap? for more information."? Such simplification could be applied to other long entries, too.
dbiel Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Regarding length of Glossary entries, how about a very simple entry like "An email address that is never used to send or receive email, created for the specific purpose of "trapping" spam. Please see What is a spam Trap? for more information."? Such simplification could be applied to other long entries, too.30976[/snapback] I like your idea. It would result in having Three Glossary Topics: 1) The current Glossary Archive - used to track the history of changes 2) The current Glossary (linked to the FAQ) would be condensed with links to a new topic. 3) A new expanded Glossary. which would be a copy of the current glossary without the index. Note: the index could be maintained if desired but the tags would have to be altered.
Jeff G. Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 3) A new expanded Glossary. which would be a copy of the current glossary without the index.30980[/snapback] Why would that be necessary? I think it would be redundant and a pain to maintain. I was just writing about the possibility of transforming some of the long Glossary entries into their own Topics.
dbiel Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Why would that be necessary? I think it would be redundant and a pain to maintain. I was just writing about the possibility of transforming some of the long Glossary entries into their own Topics.30983[/snapback] That is one option but raises the question as to where those new topics should be stored. 1) mixed in the current fourm (I don't like that idea) 2) a new glossary forum The problem with the forum structure is that threads can not be easily followed. so to maintain a usable expanded definition, each new topic would have to be maintained.
Jeff G. Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 Ideally, Forum Topics are analogs to Newsgroup Threads. I envision new Topics in this Forum containing and linked from Glossary entries.
Miss Betsy Posted July 30, 2005 Posted July 30, 2005 I am not confortable with the term "never" as we do not have working knowledge of exactly how every blocking list functions. Also would like to here input from others as to the value of the adding the additional data.One goal is to keep entries as short as possible but still provide a usable definition (a difficult balance) Thank you for your input. 30971[/snapback] The 'never' was an attempt to keep the entry short - which I agree is a difficult balance. Actually the information on how SpamCop uses spam traps is the extraneous material here and could be a link to a FAQ. How about: An email address that is never used to send or receive email, created for the specific purpose of "trapping" spam. spam Traps are used by those who maintain blocklists to identify spamming sources. (ok to have 'use' instead of 'create' - think originally it was to vary the wording, but the reason was edited out) Spammers can discover spam Trap addresses through various means - the same ways that they use to get your email address. Email addresses that have been abandoned due to the amount of spam are not considered spam Traps, although some people may use them for identifying spam sources. SpamCop's use of spam Traps Miss Betsy
dbiel Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 Merged Report History into master glossary Note: Spamtraps and SpamCop are still under construction in the Glossary Thread
dbiel Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Merged SpamCop into master glossary Note: Spamtraps is still under construction in the Glossary Thread
dbiel Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Note: SpamTrap posts from the Archive topic have been merged into this topic as we try to finalize the entry for inclusion into the main glossary. The Archive Topic has been closed. All new posts should be made in the main glossary topic. Thank you. The following is a link to the current version of the entry for review purposes. SpamTrap
dbiel Posted August 26, 2005 Posted August 26, 2005 Spamtrap has been merged into main glossary and orignal posts mergered into archive topic.
Wazoo Posted September 28, 2005 Author Posted September 28, 2005 Updated VER to include a link to Jeff G.'s FAQ entry.
Jeff G. Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Updated VER to include a link to Jeff G.'s FAQ entry.33389[/snapback] Thanks! You might also want to change "amply" to "ample" and "on going" to "ongoing" in the last paragraph.
Wazoo Posted September 28, 2005 Author Posted September 28, 2005 Thanks! You might also want to change "amply" to "ample" and "on going" to "ongoing" in the last paragraph. 33393[/snapback] dbiel's thing <g> ... fixed those and also remembered to update the Last Modified date this time... thanks
turetzsr Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 dbiel's thing <g> ... fixed those and also remembered to update the Last Modified date this time... thanks33396[/snapback] ...Good stuff! <g> ...Add link FAQ Entry: What is Quick Reporting? to the Quick Reporting entry?
Jeff G. Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 ...Good stuff! <g>33426[/snapback] Agreed....Add link FAQ Entry: What is Quick Reporting? to the Quick Reporting entry?33426[/snapback] I'd second if I didn't have to abstain.
Wazoo Posted September 28, 2005 Author Posted September 28, 2005 ...Add link FAQ Entry: What is Quick Reporting? to the Quick Reporting entry? 33426[/snapback] Done
Jeff G. Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 Innocent Bystander (IB) An Innocent Bystander (IB) is a URL or URI that is present in spam but is not taking part in the spamming process. Examples include the mandatory advertising placed at the bottom of email messages in footers by free webmail companies and by antivirus software. While we sympathize with free webmail companies' need to recoup their investments via such advertising, we don't sympathize with paid antivirus software companies' and paid ISPs' attempts to do the same, as they are already getting paid and are attempting to double-dip. An attempted Report of a URL or URI that is marked as an Innocent Bystander will be met with "ISP does not wish to receive report regarding [the Innocent Bystander]" and possibly "ISP does not wish to receive reports regarding [the Innocent Bystander] - no date available". Please see Once I close a spammer's account, how can I prevent others reporting it? for more info on how ISPs can mark their advertising as an "Innocent Bystander".
Miss Betsy Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 An Innocent Bystander (IB) is a URL or URI that is present in spam but is not placed there by the owner of the URL for spamming purposes. Spammers will put 'innocent' URL's in their spam to make it look legitimate, for instance references to news articles or government web pages. Other examples include the mandatory advertising placed at the bottom of email messages in footers by free webmail companies and by antivirus software. An attempted Report of a URL or URI that is marked as an Innocent Bystander will be met with "ISP does not wish to receive report regarding [the Innocent Bystander]" and possibly "ISP does not wish to receive reports regarding [the Innocent Bystander] - no date available". Please see Once I close a spammer's account, how can I prevent others reporting it? for how an ISP can mark a URL as an Innocent Bystander. Above is my edit. Although editorializing is sometimes interesting (or humorous), I think the opinion made it too long in this case. I added the original meaning of IB (although it is not as common now). The referenced page is primarily for ISPs not the reporter and made paragraphs of the different aspects (definition, examples, parser info, ISP info). Miss Betsy
Jeff G. Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 Miss Betsy, thanks for the work 34260[/snapback]. I reconsidered and approve your edit. The following is my opinion. While I sympathize with free webmail companies' need to recoup their investments via footer advertising, I don't sympathize with paid antivirus software companies' and paid ISPs' attempts to do the same, as they are already getting paid and are attempting to double-dip (unless they make it very clear in advance to their customers that their prices are significantly lower due to their footer advertising schemes, and give their customers options to pay higher prices for advertising-free products).
Jeff G. Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...topic=4473#rDNS34380[/snapback] The link works, but who wrote the underlying entry? I have some issues with it that need some research. Thanks!
dbiel Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 The link works, but who wrote the underlying entry? I have some issues with it that need some research. Thanks!34391[/snapback] See Glossary Archive Note: reply and quote split off test topic and moved to glossary topic
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