RoguePen Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I am receiving spam email concerning OEM software on a regular basis. I might be receiving more but I have a filter on my email to just trash any message with OEM, 0EM, and s0ftware, in the subject. They come in every couple of days and, while every report into SpamCop sites a different source, all of the domains being referenced in the emails have similar whois references, usually the same name server (oemsalo.com) and they are all registered through pacnames.com. Here's the name info from a whois: Alex Rodrigez P.O. Box 5009 Pirae TAHITI Pirae TF 98716 PF Telephone: 689.435695 Fax: 689.435695 Administrative Technical Contact: TOTALNIC-127503 XSALSA[at]ETN.ORG I have emailed Pacnames. I have reported this site to the various agencies for software pirating. I report every bit of email to SpamCop... and I am still getting this crap. I've had the urge to call this phone number at all times of the evening and expound on the history of spiced ham. Oh, and while I am going on about unstoppable spam, I also seem to be receiving Russian mail-order-bride email that is only being caught by my junk mail filter is because I told it to stop anything with a .ru domain. And, yes, my domain/email host does use SpamCop and I started reporting spam on here due to their recommendation, so I figure they are using the blacklists to stop what they can. Is there anyone who can stop this spam? Is there anyway I can stop the mail from being sent to me? I have a website with my email address as a link on a graphic (I did take it out of the text.). I was curious if this was the cause of it. Or if these things are even more difficult to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 As usual you are using a pathetic email provider you need to dump them and get a proper one I suggest a SpamCop one. This will download all existing email addresses and give you the only email address you will ever need. After a time discontinue the rubbish email address your provider forced upon you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenUnderwood Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 They come in every couple of days and, while every report into SpamCop sites a different source, ... Oh, and while I am going on about unstoppable spam, I also seem to be receiving Russian mail-order-bride email that is only being caught by my junk mail filter is because I told it to stop anything with a .ru domain. And, yes, my domain/email host does use SpamCop and I started reporting spam on here due to their recommendation, so I figure they are using the blacklists to stop what they can. Is there anyone who can stop this spam? Is there anyway I can stop the mail from being sent to me? I have a website with my email address as a link on a graphic (I did take it out of the text.). I was curious if this was the cause of it. Or if these things are even more difficult to stop. 40587[/snapback] You have patially answered your own question here...lots of IP addresses are getting listed but because they keep changing, SCBL is not helping all by itself. No single blocklist is effective but there are lots of blocklists out there which in conbination can reduce spam to a trickle. Spamcop's email service uses about a dozes different BL's and a simple spamassassin configuration. This combination (spamassassin 5/15) stops 95-99% of my spam on a daily basis. Ask your provider to add some additional BL's to their spam stopping arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dra007 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Spamcop's email service uses about a dozes different BL's and a simple spamassassin configuration. This combination (spamassassin 5/15) stops 95-99% of my spam on a daily basis. Ask your provider to add some additional BL's to their spam stopping arsenal. 40590[/snapback] You must be very lucky, I get 80% of spam not filtered by SCBL, with postini filtering on my server and forwarding to my SpamCop address what is not recognized as spam, (what is not retained in the SC heldmail is resent to my address, so I have a very good measure of what is not filtered, even with SpamAssasin at max aggresivity) I have installed spampal which seems to recognize practically everything that gets through ...so much so that I have to work hard on whitelisting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePen Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 As usual you are using a pathetic email provider you need to dump them and get a proper one I suggest a SpamCop one. This will download all existing email addresses and give you the only email address you will ever need. After a time discontinue the rubbish email address your provider forced upon you 40588[/snapback] Nice idea for those who want to pay more to not get spam. But, the thing is... this OEM spam is about the only thing I get. And I am not paying money to block one piece of spam coming in every other day. (Okay, I got one today, too. So, it has been two days in a row.) I think I am more miffed that this site seems to be chugging along without interuption by any authorities. (Despite the constant domain changes and various email sources, it's all really one site.) It's pirated software. The emails use graphics from Amazon's site. But the site remains... Although, since the whole thing of this site is for people to download software, is it possible that the reason these emails are always coming from different sources is that this software is highjacking computers and sending out the email. And how can that be stopped by blacklisting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 is it possible that the reason these emails are always coming from different sources is that this software is highjacking computers and sending out the email.[?]40592[/snapback] Yes.And how can that be stopped by blacklisting?40592[/snapback] Not blacklisting per se, but if you consider that most hijacked computers are run by end-users and most end-users are on dynamic IP Addresses, using one or more DUL lists would certainly help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turetzsr Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 <snip> I think I am more miffed that this site seems to be chugging along without interuption by any authorities. (Despite the constant domain changes and various email sources, it's all really one site.) It's pirated software. The emails use graphics from Amazon's site. But the site remains... <snip> 40592[/snapback] ...That seems like a very good question to ask the relevant authorities! Have you tried that approach? I think we'd all like to see an answer to that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btech Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Nice idea for those who want to pay more to not get spam. But, the thing is... this OEM spam is about the only thing I get. And I am not paying money to block one piece of spam coming in every other day. (Okay, I got one today, too. So, it has been two days in a row.) 40592[/snapback] Give it time... you'll get more than OEM spam eventually. If you think the list you're on won't be sold to a 'herbal viagra' pusher, you're naive. IMO, $30 a year for SCMail is one of the best investments my company makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePen Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 ...That seems like a very good question to ask the relevant authorities! Have you tried that approach? I think we'd all like to see an answer to that question. 40620[/snapback] I've sent in pirating complaints to Adobe and a couple of other organizations that deal with piracy (Business Software Association or something like that). They have forms on webpages that limit the number of words you can use... so, pasting the entire emails with the headers is rather difficult. I've sent the information to PacNames.com who registers all these domains. Even sent an email to Amazon saying that their graphics were being hosed for these emails. Got any other ideas about who to complain to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 My piracy complaints usually go to: software[at]bsa.org, netpiracy[at]spa.org, piracy[at]siia.net, netpiracy[at]siia.net, netpiracy[at]siia.org, piracy[at]microsoft.com, and piracy[at]adobe.com. One or more of the siia addresses may bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoguePen Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 Give it time... you'll get more than OEM spam eventually. If you think the list you're on won't be sold to a 'herbal viagra' pusher, you're naive. 40625[/snapback] I get those emails but they are blocked by SpamAssassin on my email server. Hence the problem I have with these OEM software spams---they're not getting blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turetzsr Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 ...That seems like a very good question to ask the relevant authorities! Have you tried that approach? I think we'd all like to see an answer to that question.40620[/snapback] I've sent in pirating complaints to Adobe and a couple of other organizations that deal with piracy (Business Software Association or something like that). They have forms on webpages that limit the number of words you can use... so, pasting the entire emails with the headers is rather difficult. I've sent the information to PacNames.com who registers all these domains. Even sent an email to Amazon saying that their graphics were being hosed for these emails. Got any other ideas about who to complain to? 40652[/snapback] ...Sorry, you've confused me. I took your remark, "I think I am more miffed that this site seems to be chugging along without interuption by any authorities" not as a question of who else to report to but rather as a question of why aren't the authorities stopping them. I think that is a very good question to ask the authorities in question. ...For an example of the "authorities" who do stop spammers, see the following articles in this Forum: Rizler to pay 5 million Yes, stuff happens! Iowa ISP Gets $11B In E-mail spam Case FTC contemplating bounties Microsoft Hunts For Zombie Spammers Well done Arsys Internet SL.... Yahoo!News US charges 'Botmaster'Spammer Soloway Seriously Spanked FBI puts stop to spam king ...There are probably more ... I went back only to October 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btech Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I get those emails but they are blocked by SpamAssassin on my email server. Hence the problem I have with these OEM software spams---they're not getting blocked. 40654[/snapback] I have never had an OEM spam slip through spam Assassain, but my level is 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeRyder Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 weird... it seems like you guys are doing everything you can to avoid getting spam into your mailbox's.. I have mine wide open so I can report them on SpamCop.. youll notice after a day or two of reporting the same guy over and over that he begins to wittle down the list to see who is reporting him..and eventually removes you from his list... but I enjoy reporting the spam... kinda like an online hobby for me. Am I so different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Betsy Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 but I enjoy reporting the spam... kinda like an online hobby for me. Am I so different? 40776[/snapback] No, there are others. It is the ISPs who are trying to keep spam out rather than reporting it for the sake of the hunt. And there are those who do whatever they can to keep spammers from listwashing them (removing their addresses from the spammers' list) so they can keep reporting them. Every reporter name the spammers can remove is one less hit on the bl. OTOH, they usually sell it so that the actual spam count doesn't go down. Miss Betsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 but I enjoy reporting the spam... kinda like an online hobby for me. Am I so different?40776[/snapback] Nah, I'm sure many like to feel they're contributing to the containment of the spammers - but the sheer volume makes it sort of get "old" fairly quickly and not many can actually see a tangible result (exponential growth of spam tends to gobble up individual effort). Great to hear from someone with a more positive experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btech Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 but I enjoy reporting the spam... kinda like an online hobby for me. Am I so different? 40776[/snapback] I like reporting spam too... makes me feel like I might be making a difference. *PLUGS HIS EARS* LA LA LA LA YOU CAN'T TELL ME IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE, CUZ I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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